LCWRA and possibly working

Thomas00103

I get UC and LCWRA so have been signed off completely. But I live alone etc. Is there anyway of permitted work similar to ESA, but for LCWRA as can't find anything online regarding it. 

Spoonie_Turtle

With UC you can try working as much or little as you like, the only threshold in practice is earning so much that your deductions from your UC would leave £0.

If you tell us the amount of UC you currently get, and whether you're renting (because that affects which work allowance you would have), we can tell you the max you could earn before the deductions would result in a nil award.

tifo

The problem you might have is that when it comes to your LCWRA review and you've been working, they're likely to say that you're capable of work and remove it or reduce it to LCW.

poppy12345

tifo said:

The problem you might have is that when it comes to your LCWRA review and you've been working, they're likely to say that you're capable of work and remove it or reduce it to LCW.

Many people work and continue with LCWRA without any issues at all. Just because a person is working, it doesn't mean they're not entitled to LCWRA.

tifo

poppy12345 said:

tifo said:

The problem you might have is that when it comes to your LCWRA review and you've been working, they're likely to say that you're capable of work and remove it or reduce it to LCW.

Many people work and continue with LCWRA without any issues at all. Just because a person is working, it doesn't mean they're not entitled to LCWRA.

Oh ok, i didn't know in that way.

I thought the point of an award for LCWRA is that claimant is not fully capable of work and so much that they do not have to look for work under UC.

Many users on here advice that (paid) work with LCWRA will affect a future review as the DWP will use that to show you are at least capable of work related activities and as such not award anything or LCW only. That's what i've gone with.

poppy12345

tifo said:

Oh ok, i didn't know in that way.

I thought the point of an award for LCWRA is that claimant is not fully capable of work and so much that they do not have to look for work under UC.

No, LCWRA means they have a limited capability for work, it doesn't mean they can't work at all. Of course they do not have to look for work but this doesn't mean they can't work.

tifo said:

Many users on here advice that (paid) work with LCWRA will affect a future review as the DWP will use that to show you are at least capable of work related activities and as such not award anything or LCW only. That's what i've gone with.

No, you've totally misunderstood what many advise here. What we advise is that if the work you do contradicts the reasons why you were found to have LCWRA then it could go against you. This doesn't mean it will go against you.

Spoonie_Turtle

tifo said:

poppy12345 said:

tifo said:

The problem you might have is that when it comes to your LCWRA review and you've been working, they're likely to say that you're capable of work and remove it or reduce it to LCW.

Many people work and continue with LCWRA without any issues at all. Just because a person is working, it doesn't mean they're not entitled to LCWRA.

Oh ok, i didn't know in that way.

I thought the point of an award for LCWRA is that claimant is not fully capable of work and so much that they do not have to look for work under UC.

Many users on here advice that (paid) work with LCWRA will affect a future review as the DWP will use that to show you are at least capable of work related activities and as such not award anything or LCW only. That's what i've gone with.

If you meet a LCWRA descriptor then you still meet it, regardless of whether you have found suitable work (paid or unpaid, makes no difference) or not.

The point is their restrictions on what work they could do are so great it's unreasonable to make them do any work-related activity, let alone look for work.  But it doesn't mean someone's not allowed to do anything if they find something they actually can do.

Yamor

poppy12345 said:

tifo said:

Oh ok, i didn't know in that way.

I thought the point of an award for LCWRA is that claimant is not fully capable of work and so much that they do not have to look for work under UC.

No, LCWRA means they have a limited capability for work, it doesn't mean they can't work at all. Of course they do not have to look for work but this doesn't mean they can't work.

tifo said:

Many users on here advice that (paid) work with LCWRA will affect a future review as the DWP will use that to show you are at least capable of work related activities and as such not award anything or LCW only. That's what i've gone with.

No, you've totally misunderstood what many advise here. What we advise is that if the work you do contradicts the reasons why you were found to have LCWRA then it could go against you. This doesn't mean it will go against you.

Although it can lead to being sent for another assessment which you wouldn't otherwise have been sent for.

HillStreetBlues

My overriding thought would be "can this be held against me?"
Have you got your assessment report? as that will indicate better why you were put in LCWRA as the UCD81 is unless.

Thomas00103

Spoonie_Turtle said:

With UC you can try working as much or little as you like, the only threshold in practice is earning so much that your deductions from your UC would leave £0.

If you tell us the amount of UC you currently get, and whether you're renting (because that affects which work allowance you would have), we can tell you the max you could earn before the deductions would result in a nil award.

I get my standard allowance 30 years old, housing element £259 then LCWRA on top. In total is £1019

Spoonie_Turtle

Thomas00103 said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

With UC you can try working as much or little as you like, the only threshold in practice is earning so much that your deductions from your UC would leave £0.

If you tell us the amount of UC you currently get, and whether you're renting (because that affects which work allowance you would have), we can tell you the max you could earn before the deductions would result in a nil award.

I get my standard allowance 30 years old, housing element £259 then LCWRA on top. In total is £1019

So your work allowance would be £379
Taper rate of 55% for anything above that
1019÷0.55 = 1852.72
+379 = £2231.72

That's where your UC would be wiped out, so you can earn up to £2231.71 to still be entitled to UC (although your UC payment would be about 1p, at that point).