HOW to get out of a months notice to resign + other problems

stu12345_2

I dont like my job, ive been there almost 3 years, I started applying for other jobs, i get daily notifications from Indeed website suggesting jobs, but 90% of them state "immediate start" or "urgently required". This months notice is stopping me applying.

I get paid monthly, my contract says months notice required, I work in a school,( in a maintenance/estates job roll, hence i get paid all year round, (hence cannot go unemployed during school holidays) my salary is averaged out, so i get a wage monthly, even during the school holidays, the school is open for 42 weeks.

All holidays must be taken during school holidays. the other problem is 2 jobs i applied for, havent asked for period of notice, one of them is likely to say yes or no to me in  the next couple of weeks, the other is a lengthy application with numerous tests, both online and at interview, which i am due to take this month.

If i get accepted for the first job, how do i continue with the other job application ( when it says a 4 hour test will be done at our premises , ( 50 miles from my home). Or if i dont get the first job, how do i get the time off current employer to sneak off for a 4 hour test, plus traveling time,? i will not pull a sickie( cos i work with wife and employer would get her to do my work on top of her, which is too much) and cant use any holidays.

Finally, how do i escape the months notice, i have heard stories of folk saving up holiday entitlement and say heres my months notice and as i have approx 4 weeks plus holiday due, im am leaving the building now.

But my holidays are incorporated in my annual pay and holidays are only taken during school holidays. so in reality i dont know what im due or what in fact i have used, cos i never ever see, a holiday pay wage in my monthly payslip as i simply get paid every month, even when the school is off, my wage slip always just states ,eg,  November wage= £the same, eg December wage =£ the same, It never shows hours worked, just same monthly wage minus tax and NI,( basically annual salary divided by 12)

elsien

Most places expect that you will have to give a months notice, unless it’s agency work, it tends not to be a dealbreaker. 

With regards to time off for interviews, would they allow you to take it unpaid?

Grumpy_chap

Apply for the jobs and ignore the comment about "immediate start".
If you are the best person for the role, the employer will wait a month for your availability.  That is better for the employer than having an "also ran" available now.

unforeseen

my employer are kind of nasty that way, they force you to do other workmates work as well as yours when they are off sick.

You forgot the tongue in cheek emoji with that comment. Or do you really beileve that nobody should do your work when you are off? 

TELLIT01

If somebody is only likely to be off sick for a short time it's generally impractical to get a temp in and train them up.  The work still has to be done so it's up to management to decide how the extra workload will be distributed.  If a manager gave me more work than I could do I would tell them so, then do what I can and either hand the rest back or leave it in the pile until the next day.

Undervalued

stu12345_2 said:

I dont like my job, ive been there almost 3 years, I started applying for other jobs, i get daily notifications from Indeed website suggesting jobs, but 90% of them state "immediate start" or "urgently required". This months notice is stopping me applying.

I get paid monthly, my contract says months notice required, I work in a school,( in a maintenance/estates job roll, hence i get paid all year round, (hence cannot go unemployed during school holidays) my salary is averaged out, so i get a wage monthly, even during the school holidays, the school is open for 42 weeks.

All holidays must be taken during school holidays. the other problem is 2 jobs i applied for, havent asked for period of notice, one of them is likely to say yes or no to me in  the next couple of weeks, the other is a lengthy application with numerous tests, both online and at interview, which i am due to take this month.

If i get accepted for the first job, how do i continue with the other job application ( when it says a 4 hour test will be done at our premises , ( 50 miles from my home). Or if i dont get the first job, how do i get the time off current employer to sneak off for a 4 hour test, plus traveling time,? i will not pull a sickie( cos i work with wife and employer would get her to do my work on top of her, which is too much) and cant use any holidays.

Finally, how do i escape the months notice, i have heard stories of folk saving up holiday entitlement and say heres my months notice and as i have approx 4 weeks plus holiday due, im am leaving the building now.

But my holidays are incorporated in my annual pay and holidays are only taken during school holidays. so in reality i dont know what im due or what in fact i have used, cos i never ever see, a holiday pay wage in my monthly payslip as i simply get paid every month, even when the school is off, my wage slip always just states ,eg,  November wage= £the same, eg December wage =£ the same, It never shows hours worked, just same monthly wage minus tax and NI,( basically annual salary divided by 12)

Legally that doesn't work as you can only take your holiday when your employer agrees. They might find it acceptable but equally they can refuse.

If you fail to work your contracted notice, without your employers agreement, they could sue you for any losses that causes them such as the extra cost of getting a contractor to do whatever you would normally have done. It doesn't happen all that often but it can and does happen.

Also it would look terrible in any reference and may well put potential employers off hiring you.

TELLIT01

Nobody can 'force you to work like a madman'.  Staff need to develop a backbone and simply continue doing their normal job.  Inform management at the end of each day of the work which has not been completed and leave it to them to find a solution.  If staff always absorb the additional workload then management will obviously believe there is the capacity to do so, and they will apparently be correct.

I'm not advocating the way management are doing things, simply stating it as it is.  One place I worked insisted in having weekly 1 hour 'communication meetings' despite a very heavy workload.  At one of these meetings a manager insisted on reading out an 8 page newsletter in full, despite it having been sent to everybody.  When I questioned why this was happening he said "I've been told not all staff read it".  My reply of "Well shouldn't action be taken against those staff rather than wasting everybody's time?" wasn't well received by management, although it did get a loud round of applause.  I do know that public sector managers in particular can be absolutely useless.

As for attending interviews, the only sensible (i.e. not lying to get time off) option is to request interviews late in the day or at weekends.  You aren't the only person ever to have made such a request.  If you are a highly desirable candidate they may be willing to try to help.

elsien

You really don’t have a clue what management jobs involve, do you? Maybe focus on raising the concerns that you have rather than suggesting anyone who works in an office spend their time gossiping and drinking coffee.

Marcon

OP, you're making a real meal out of this when it almost certainly isn't necessary. Apply for jobs, keep applying for jobs, and just make it clear on your application that you need to give a month's notice. 'Immediate start' is often used to entice people to apply, not necessarily that the employer actually needs people so quickly.

MattMattMattUK

Marcon said:

OP, you're making a real meal out of this when it almost certainly isn't necessary. Apply for jobs, keep applying for jobs, and just make it clear on your application that you need to give a month's notice. 'Immediate start' is often used to entice people to apply, not necessarily that the employer actually needs people so quickly.

I agree with this 100%. OP, apply, go for interviews, hand in your notice and work it when you get a new job. I have known plenty of friends apply for jobs labelled "immediate start" and the have started after working their normal notice. 

Savvy_Sue

Just because the employer doesn't recognise any union doesn't mean you can't join one and get some support from them.