Mandatory training

Hi all,

Ive just received a text from my manager, which looks like it’s been sent to everyone in the work place. 

Manager informs us that we need to do some training in relation to a client we look after, and she has put “ this training is vital to continue working here”

However, happy to do the training I have no issues with that, but she’s given a week notice ! 
Politely I would expect a little more notice than 7 days…. I’m only saying this because of my childcare situation and also it’s my day off too. Which i know my employer won’t care about but I do ! I just think if given longer notice I can sort it out, so I can attend but not a week.

i just wondered if there was any law on this with giving employees notice of such training.  

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  • Flugelhorn
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    doubt if there is a "law" - but I have been in situation where I worked for more than one organisation at the same time and one of them would decide something was mandatory on a day  I was working elsewhere and I would just say "no can do" - and they made alternate arrangements.

    Just say you need more time and can't change the day off next week
  • DullGreyGuy
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    Tash765 said:
    Hi all,

    Ive just received a text from my manager, which looks like it’s been sent to everyone in the work place. 

    Manager informs us that we need to do some training in relation to a client we look after, and she has put “ this training is vital to continue working here”

    However, happy to do the training I have no issues with that, but she’s given a week notice ! 
    Politely I would expect a little more notice than 7 days…. I’m only saying this because of my childcare situation and also it’s my day off too. Which i know my employer won’t care about but I do ! I just think if given longer notice I can sort it out, so I can attend but not a week.

    i just wondered if there was any law on this with giving employees notice of such training.  
    I am guessing you have forgotten to add that this in live in person training that has to be done onsite on a set date? Rather than some web based thing that can be done at any hour.

    Assuming you aren't a 2 person company the probability of any randomly chosen date is that someone is going to be off sick or away on holiday etc and so presumably a second session is going to have to be setup for them anyway. 

    Depending on what the training is, is there other options like attending it via Teams (or other such software)? We've all had plenty of meeting these days when childcare has fallen through and so the toddler joins the meeting. 
  • Thanks all,

    So I work within a care company which is supported living, but this one client has seizures and requires some medicine that you have to be trained on to administer, which is absolutely necessary of course to have the training.
     But to give  a week notice, next Friday isn’t very fair and will need to say I can’t but equally, I don’t want to look awkward. It’s not an hour training either it’s 4 hours. 

    Thanks for responses. 
  • Flugelhorn
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    fair enough but I would tell them it is going to cause significant problems - the medication is fairly widely used and I am sure that they could get you in on a training session elsewhere on another day if needed. I certainly had a patient in a home where they used such medication and the staff were trained by a nurse   (I think ) in small groups - not everyone could be there at the same time. 
  • Is there no way you could complete the training online? Or as its care related is it all practical.
  • Grumpy_chap
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    Tash765 said:
    Hi all,

    Ive just received a text from my manager, which looks like it’s been sent to everyone in the work place. 

    Manager informs us that we need to do some training in relation to a client we look after, and she has put “ this training is vital to continue working here”

    However, happy to do the training I have no issues with that, but she’s given a week notice ! 
    Politely I would expect a little more notice than 7 days…. I’m only saying this because of my childcare situation and also it’s my day off too. Which i know my employer won’t care about but I do ! I just think if given longer notice I can sort it out, so I can attend but not a week.

    i just wondered if there was any law on this with giving employees notice of such training.  
    Tash765 said:
    Thanks all,

    So I work within a care company which is supported living, but this one client has seizures and requires some medicine that you have to be trained on to administer, which is absolutely necessary of course to have the training.
     But to give  a week notice, next Friday isn’t very fair and will need to say I can’t but equally, I don’t want to look awkward. It’s not an hour training either it’s 4 hours. 

    Thanks for responses. 
    Have you spoken with your Manager?
    Worth saying you fully support doing the training but the proposed date is your non-working day and ask if there is an alternative date available.
    No need to go into details about what you have arranged / childcare in the first instance. 
    Assuming the care role needs to be fulfilled 7 days a week, whatever day the training is arranged there will be some not in work so having a second date is essential.
  • TELLIT01
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    If you were out of the area/country on annual leave they would need to make alternative arrangements for training.  This isn't really very different to that.  It is planned for your non-working day when you have other commitments which can't be changed.
  • Savvy_Sue
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    If this client needs 24/7 cover, then you can't ALL be in the same training at the same time, can you? 

    Are you in a union? I'd ask for their support. (please tell me you're in a union, it scares me when frontline workers aren't)
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  • Tell them you are unable to find childcare for this day and to reschedule for a working day. They can't fire you for being unable to come into work on a non working day and without appropriate notice. 
    As others have said, people could be ill, on holiday abroad or at the drs on their day off, I doubt they are expecting them all to cancel and come in.
  • LightFlare
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    edited 12 November 2023 at 7:19AM
    Tell them you are unable to find childcare for this day and to reschedule for a working day. They can't fire you for being unable to come into work on a non working day and without appropriate notice
    As others have said, people could be ill, on holiday abroad or at the drs on their day off, I doubt they are expecting them all to cancel and come in.
    Arguably - 7 days notice is well within the realms of what could be classed as appropriate notice - it certainly would be if it was a single days annual leave
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