Can smart meters wind you up with paying MORE for your energy?

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  • Spoonie_Turtle
    Spoonie_Turtle Posts: 8,380 Forumite
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    edited 26 October 2023 at 10:41PM
    I can't see that there will ever be a time when having a smart meter will exclude you from access to a tariff that is available to those who do not have a smart meter.  So on that basis, the answer is No.  
    While it is an answer of sorts, that isn't the question that I asked. So it answers someone's question, just not mine.

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    But your question was 

    Can smart meters wind you up with paying MORE for your energy?

    Why would they wind you up? Or are you winding us up?  Smart meters allow us to choose tariffs that suit our circumstances, the IHDs are either useful or not . The real reason that you pay MORE for your energy is down to you with or without a smart meter it’s down to your research end of.
    Sightly odd phrasing but I think they meant, 'could smart meters make you wind up (end up) paying more?'

    To which the answer is, of course, only if you actively choose a smart tariff inappropriate for your usage (as has already been thoroughly covered in the beginning of this thread).
  • markin
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    In time of war all bets are off, We can't predict how the Gov would do it, they could decide to use surge pricing or use the SM to cut non vulnerable people off at peak times, Or people with no smart could be the ones charged all day surge rates. I found it strange they defaulted to the 1970's plan last winter.

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  • B0bbyEwing
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    I can't see that there will ever be a time when having a smart meter will exclude you from access to a tariff that is available to those who do not have a smart meter.  So on that basis, the answer is No.  
    While it is an answer of sorts, that isn't the question that I asked. So it answers someone's question, just not mine.

    .
    But your question was 

    Can smart meters wind you up with paying MORE for your energy?

    Why would they wind you up? Or are you winding us up?  Smart meters allow us to choose tariffs that suit our circumstances, the IHDs are either useful or not . The real reason that you pay MORE for your energy is down to you with or without a smart meter it’s down to your research end of.
    I didn't ask if smart meters exclude you from non-smart meter tariffs. 
    As well as not asking that, it was even mentioned a few posts after the OP.

    You also got the wrong end of the stick with how I was using wind you up. Unless it was intentionally done. Only you'll know.
  • An interesting yet strange read with what may be termed as a difficult to deal with consumer.

    Have you made up your mind OP on what way you might swing given the responses so far?

    Are you going to resist and tape yourself to your current analogue meter(s) or move into the 21st Century and all the unknowns that brings?
  • ArbitraryRandom
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    edited 27 October 2023 at 9:13AM
    Thanks. Very helpful.

    I'm forever cautious about change anyway. Not just smart meters. I don't always insta-believe the masses either - "it's cheap". I prefer to try & see if there's any "ahhh but........." that nobody tells you about. If there's not & if it (not just smart meters) actually is a good move then I'll do it.

    So far I'm struggling to find a reason to NOT get a smart meter so I think I'll book in.
    The OP answered that question several days ago... you might have missed it - it was between the several posts they made clarifying their opening question ;) 
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  • Qyburn
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    My smart plug isn't costing me anything either - it's already been paid for.
    The P110 draws around 1W when the switch is on, 0.5W when it's off.
  • B0bbyEwing
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    Qyburn said:
    My smart plug isn't costing me anything either - it's already been paid for.
    The P110 draws around 1W when the switch is on, 0.5W when it's off.
    Now this is an interesting response to say the least.

    What made you highlight the P110 out of curiosity?
  • victor2
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    Qyburn said:
    My smart plug isn't costing me anything either - it's already been paid for.
    The P110 draws around 1W when the switch is on, 0.5W when it's off.
    Now this is an interesting response to say the least.

    What made you highlight the P110 out of curiosity?

    Probably because it is one of the most popular devices for monitoring usage through a socket. Plus it's a smart switch as well.

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  • EssexHebridean
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    P110 is by far the most commonly used device of the type on the boards I would think - sometimes feels like most of us have one…or several! 
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  • GingerTim
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    edited 27 October 2023 at 4:13PM
    Qyburn said:
    A whiff of conspiracy theory there. How can "surge pricing" be applied to people not on TOU tariffs? Who promised you cheap Diesel?
    Those without smart meters will have a simple to understand and consistent surge-price time period of midnight to midnight :)
    Alongside an equally easy to understand £1+ daily standing charge.
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