ECP DCB Legal court claim

Mattallicawolf

Apologies I couldn't find a thread on this and starting to panic 

Long story short had a PCN for a Euro Car Parks where I had got confused about 20 min free parking and parked on wrong car park (train station in Wolverhampton multi story and Cornhill Street Station are next to each other)

We never received the initial letter which would have said to pay early and reduce the fine and our first interaction was a threating letter from a debt collector and no option to appeal

We asked for a SAR and they sent a copy of the letter they allegedly sent but we never received it 

Queue a year nearly of letters from other debt collectors and this morning received one from QDR

Is there anything to be gained by reaching out to Euro Car Parks to offer to pay the initial fine? My wife is pregnant and this is really start to stress her out now 

If it went to court could we offer to pay the initial fine to be done with it 

Any advice greatly appreciated 

Coupon-mad

Is there anything to be gained by reaching out to Euro Car Parks to offer to pay the initial fine? 

If it went to court could we offer to pay the initial fine to be done with it 

Nope.  And Nope.

If that was an option the NEWBIES thread would say so.  Stop taking this seriously.

It's also not a fine.

A QDR letter is merely sent by ZZPS which also uses letter heading in the name GCTT.

QDR do not start claims for Euro Car Parks.

This letter is hot air.  Nothing is likely to happen. It has not become serious.  It's still ZZPS.  Ignore them.

WE MEAN: totally ignore unless you get a court claim, apart from complaining to the landowners or retailers.  They can cancel PCNs in seconds.

Mattallicawolf

Loud and clear 

Will ignore until we get a court claim 

Is it worth trying to pursue a cancellation of the PCN all together then with ECP or have I misunderstood?

UncleThomasCobley

Mattallicawolf said:

Loud and clear 

Will ignore until we get a court claim 

Is it worth trying to pursue a cancellation of the PCN all together then with ECP or have I misunderstood?

Not with ECP. You should complain to the landowner/store and tell them to get the PCN cancelled. Forget about any comms with the intellectually malnourished ECP.

Coupon-mad

No chance of talking to ECP.  Not when the case is with ZZPS.  Let sleeping dogs lie.

Mattallicawolf

Hi all

We have now received a letter from HM Courts and Tribunal Services about this.

Will go to the Newbie thread when I know what I'm going to do with it but unsure what action to take...

Is it worth offering to partially pay , and offer the amount that would have been if we could have paid early and use the defence that we never received the letter? 

The fee has almost doubled now on the court letter too to add to the stress 

Any help and patience greatly appreciated

Gr1pr

Definitely not, leave any offers to the mediation stage, assuming that you want to actually make an offer. ?

We would tell you to not offer anything because ECP and DCB legal tend to discontinue a few weeks before any court hearing. There are over 430 examples of discontinuations in the thread by Umkomaas 

Not receiving paperwork is no defence 

Name the legal team acting for ECP 

Post the issue date on the top right of the claim form 

Also post a redacted picture of the POC on the bottom left of the claim form too ( after hiding the VRM details first. )

Mattallicawolf

Hi, thanks for replying

DCB Legal are the ones on the claim form
21/11/2024 is the issue date

KeithP

Mattallicawolf said:

DCB Legal are the ones on the claim form
21/11/2024 is the issue date

With a Claim Issue Date of 21st November, you have until Tuesday 10th December to file an Acknowledgment of Service.  Do not file an Acknowledgment of Service before 26th November, but otherwise there is nothing to be gained by delaying it. 

To file an Acknowledgment of Service, follow the guidance in the Dropbox file linked from the second post in the NEWBIES thread.
Having filed an Acknowledgment of Service in a timely manner, you have until 4pm on Tuesday 24th December 2024 to file a Defence.

That's over four weeks away. Plenty of time to produce a Defence, but please don't leave it to the last minute.

To create a Defence, and then file a Defence by email, look again at the second post on the NEWBIES thread - immediately following where you found the Acknowledgment of Service guidance.

Don't miss the deadline for filing an Acknowledgment of Service, nor that for filing a Defence.

Do not try and file a Defence via the MoneyClaimOnline website. Once an Acknowledgment of Service has been filed, the MCOL website should be treated as 'read only'.

Mattallicawolf

Thanks for the reply , my wife (whose name is on the letter) doesn't want to go through all the steps as she's worried about rising costs should they not back down etc 

There's mention of the mediation stage above? Is this is reference to offering to pay a partial amount of the fine with your own justification?

Gr1pr

There won't be any rising costs, if she was unfortunate enough to go all the way to a hearing in court and lose, the typical loss is about £212, less than the amount on the claim form 

There was no fine, there is no fine, just an unpaid invoice , a typical invoice is £100

A without prejudice offer could be made at the compulsory mediation stage, say £30 , no need to justify anything, mediation is about reaching a compromise figure that both sides will accept, nothing to do with the details of the claim