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How to calculate cost to fill hot water cylinder using Gas Conventional Boiler - confused!

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  • When taking readings for you gas meter look at the meter, not the IHD.
    If you have an IHD that means you have a smart meter. 

    And if that was the case the OP wouldn't need to have started this thread because any one of the many energy monitoring apps (e.g. Bright) can give an exact answer to this question (in both kW and £) at a glance.

  • glennevis said:
    When taking readings for you gas meter look at the meter, not the IHD.
    If you have an IHD that means you have a smart meter. 

    And if that was the case the OP wouldn't need to have started this thread because any one of the many energy monitoring apps (e.g. Bright) can give an exact answer to this question (in both kW and £) at a glance.

    Only if the meter is set to a 30 minute profile. The same information is available in the Octopus App.
  • debitcardmayhem
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    edited 29 September 2023 at 9:01AM
    glennevis said:
    When taking readings for you gas meter look at the meter, not the IHD.
    If you have an IHD that means you have a smart meter. 

    And if that was the case the OP wouldn't need to have started this thread because any one of the many energy monitoring apps (e.g. Bright) can give an exact answer to this question (in both kW and £) at a glance.

    Not at the time of use will they, and gas meters usually only update the han every half hour. Plus apps like bright rely on the dcc readings and they (bright etc) only poll the data 3 times a day.
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    edited 29 September 2023 at 9:31AM
    glennevis said:
    When taking readings for you gas meter look at the meter, not the IHD.
    If you have an IHD that means you have a smart meter. 

    And if that was the case the OP wouldn't need to have started this thread because any one of the many energy monitoring apps (e.g. Bright) can give an exact answer to this question (in both kW and £) at a glance.

    Not at the time of use will they, and gas meters usually only update the han every half hour. Plus apps like bright rely on the dcc readings and they (bright etc) only poll the data 3 times a day.
    The DCC does not store any consumer usage data. It is a ‘pass through’ network provider. Suppliers and third-parties like Bright send a daily reading/data request script to the DCC which the DCC runs at a time of its choosing. The usage data that suppliers et al access comes directly from smart meters. Only suppliers get access to register readings.
  • glennevis said:
    When taking readings for you gas meter look at the meter, not the IHD.
    If you have an IHD that means you have a smart meter. 

    And if that was the case the OP wouldn't need to have started this thread because any one of the many energy monitoring apps (e.g. Bright) can give an exact answer to this question (in both kW and £) at a glance.

    Not at the time of use will they, and gas meters usually only update the han every half hour. Plus apps like bright rely on the dcc readings and they (bright etc) only poll the data 3 times a day.
    The OP wanted to know "how much gas (= cost) does the Worcester 40CDI use to only heat water for an hour?" which does not require live data.
  • The two hour Immersion last night has provided plenty of hot water today so I’ll try 90 mins tonight and so on until I find the most efficient and comfortable setting.

    Regarding meters, we do have a Smart meter but it’s currently not registering gas usage, nor is the Octopus app ( it was registering and then it stopped a few weeks ago). The gas meter lcd display is off too. We have raised this with Octopus.
  • QrizB
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    Lfc1969 said:
    The two hour Immersion last night has provided plenty of hot water today so I’ll try 90 mins tonight and so on until I find the most efficient and comfortable setting.
    There is realtively little benefit to reducing the immersion heater "on" time.
    Your immersion heater will have a thermostat. It will only draw power while the ater in the tank is cooler than the thermostat setting.
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  • Regarding meters, we do have a Smart meter but it’s currently not registering gas usage, nor is the Octopus app ( it was registering and then it stopped a few weeks ago). The gas meter lcd display is off too. We have raised this with Octopus.

    Most gas smart meter displays are blank to protect battery life. Next time you speak to Octopus re your meter ask them about Guaranteed Service payments:

    Meter problems (non-prepayment meters)

    Gas and electricity meters should work properly, and to acceptable tolerances.

    If you think there’s a problem with your meter, please let us know and we’ll get it fixed for you. Please don’t try to fix the meter yourself as we’ve specialist engineers for that.

    Once you’ve told us of a problem with your meter, we’ll do the following within 5 working days: 

    1. We’ll assess the meter to check if it’s working properly and within acceptable tolerances.
    2. We’ll work out what the cause of the problem is, or otherwise make sure you get your supply through a meter that’s working properly and to acceptable tolerances.
    3. We’ll ask if you’d like us to confirm the above in writing, including any actions we’ll take to ensure your supply comes through a working meter, and timescales for doing so.

    If we receive your notification outside of normal working hours, the 5 working day timescale will run from the start of the next day.

    If we don’t meet the above criteria, we’ll pay you £30 compensation within 10 working days. If we fail to do that, we’ll pay you another £30 in a further 10 working days. We’ll pay you compensation unless there’s a dispute between us as to whether you should get it, and in accordance with the provisions of the Electricity and Gas (Standards of Performance) (Suppliers) Regulations 2015. We’ll usually pay compensation as a credit to your energy account.

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