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pay with savings or PCP with low apr?

gord115
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edited 24 September 2023 am30 8:04AM in Loans
My friend is buying a new car. 
He has the money to pay it out of his savings and he gets 4.36% interest on that.

But he can buy the car for £5300 deposit followed by 47 payments of £319.05.
Then a final payment of £15170.59. the interest rate is 2.9%. A total of £35312.94

Which is better?

Thanks in advance.

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  • What's the price to buy outright with savings?
  • As far as it goes, taking out the PCP is a better deal - he's earning more on his savings that what he'll be paying for the finance.  Additionally, quite often there will be some sort of dealer contribution on a PCP deal.
    One thing to bear in mind - presumably the APR on the PCP is fixed for the term of the deal, whereas his savings rate can vary?  If the APR on his savings account drops below 2.9% then he'll be worse off on the PCP.
    One other consideration - will he be paying for the PCP out of his savings, or will it come out of his regular monthly income?  If he's gradually depleting his savings in order to pay the PCP then there's probably not an awful lot in it overall.  Yes, he'll still be better with the PCP, but the sums involved will be pretty small.
    A final consideration - is the final PCP payment guaranteed, or does it depend on the mileage?  I suspect that if the overall aim is to buy the car outright then mileage won't matter - but it's worth just checking. 
  • gord115
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    What's the price to buy outright with savings?
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  • gord115
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    edited 22 September 2023 pm30 12:48PM
    As far as it goes, taking out the PCP is a better deal - he's earning more on his savings that what he'll be paying for the finance.  Additionally, quite often there will be some sort of dealer contribution on a PCP deal.
    One thing to bear in mind - presumably the APR on the PCP is fixed for the term of the deal, whereas his savings rate can vary?  If the APR on his savings account drops below 2.9% then he'll be worse off on the PCP.
    One other consideration - will he be paying for the PCP out of his savings, or will it come out of his regular monthly income?  If he's gradually depleting his savings in order to pay the PCP then there's probably not an awful lot in it overall.  Yes, he'll still be better with the PCP, but the sums involved will be pretty small.
    A final consideration - is the final PCP payment guaranteed, or does it depend on the mileage?  I suspect that if the overall aim is to buy the car outright then mileage won't matter - but it's worth just checking. 
    I'm pretty sure the final amount is  guaranteed. He will be paying out of his savings.
  • noh
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    edited 23 September 2023 pm30 11:05PM
    At a guess he is buying a Toyota CHR.
    You have missed a digit in the final payment you stated £1517.19 when you probably meant £15170.19
    If I was him and had the money avaiable, I would take the PCP and put the final payment amount in a fixed account that matures before the final payment is due. Currently 5.7% is available on a 4 year fix.

    Similar thread on the same subject here: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6458080/comparing-pcp-apr-to-cash-in-the-bank-interest-rate/p1
  • gord115
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    Thanks everyone. I will pass the info on.
  • gord115
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    noh said:
    At a guess he is buying a Toyota CHR.
    You have missed a digit in the final payment you stated £1517.19 when you probably meant £15170.19
    If I was him and had the money avaiable, I would take the PCP and put the final payment amount in a fixed account that matures before the final payment is due. Currently 5.7% is available on a 4 year fix.

    Similar thread on the same subject here: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6458080/comparing-pcp-apr-to-cash-in-the-bank-interest-rate/p1
    No it is an electric Mini,
  • DrEskimo
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    edited 26 September 2023 am30 9:36AM
    gord115 said:
    noh said:
    At a guess he is buying a Toyota CHR.
    You have missed a digit in the final payment you stated £1517.19 when you probably meant £15170.19
    If I was him and had the money avaiable, I would take the PCP and put the final payment amount in a fixed account that matures before the final payment is due. Currently 5.7% is available on a 4 year fix.

    Similar thread on the same subject here: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6458080/comparing-pcp-apr-to-cash-in-the-bank-interest-rate/p1
    No it is an electric Mini,
    In which case tell him to save his money and wait for the new model. The current model only has a a 32kWh battery, and these are due to be replaced with either a 40kWh, or 60kWh in the new model.

    If he did want the current model, you can get a 2-year old one with very reasonable mileage for half the price. Paying £32k on an outgoing, low range model seems like a sure fire way of getting hammered in depreciation....
  • Altior
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    The apr is likely to be below the inflation rate anyway, for some time. Quite apart from the savings. 
  • No amount of savings interest will account for the sheer drop in depreciation on the electric mini. Lease the car and hand it back, keep savings in high interest account.
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