Drowning - What Can I Do?

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  • Martico said:
    [deleted previous comment after researching baths a bit more]

    A standard bath is around 100 litres, according to, a shower would use much less, so over 300 litres per day sounds crazy unless you have a severe tea fetish. I doubt you'd have needed to use a hosepipe much this year
    I don’t use the bath (just shower), and I live up north so no need for the hosepipe as it rains most days haha… I’ll contact the water company again but they seemed rather useless the last time I reached out (start of the summer).
  • I agree with an earlier post, check the water, shower at the gym, even if you just pop in go on the treadmill for five minutes then go. It will keep your energy bills down in winter and reduce your water costs. It's worth checking your gas and electric too. Your bills may be based on two people so you may need a few months for it to reset to your usage. If your bills reduce a bit and you reduce your phone in Jan you can start to save for the car costs. We are a family of five using 350 ish litres of water a day and anywhere between 10 and 15 kWh of electricity.  Small things and turning lights and standby items off can help more than you'd think
    Water: As advised by another post, I’ve cancelled the gym membership so I’ll not have access to that from the middle of next month. I’ll reach out to the water board again tomorrow but they seem to believe that my usage is correct and that I use 319 litres a day (meter reading is up-to-date and matches their data shown on my account).

    Gas / Electric: What would I be looking for with this to make a saving, I don’t have any high-use appliances and most things are modern (new in the last 5 years), I mainly use the microwave and use the air fryer over the oven, lights are only on in the room I’m using, it’s a new build home so well insulated meaning gas is mainly for water.

    Mobile: Will change to a SIM only plan once out of contract.
  • Our water is £27 a month for a family of 4. Something is definitely wrong there, so it will be worth you spending a bit of time figuring it out!

    We spend £200 a month on food and cleaning products, and just over £10 a month for 3 SIM only phone contracts, so I think there are savings to be made there too. We eat meat free 3-4 days per week*, and just have meals made with vegetables (no meat substitutes). We also know when our local Asda discounts their food, and sometimes we'll get veg for 10p. We also think about what we're buying, as fruit and veg tends to be cheaper when it's in season (no winter strawberries!).

    Topcashback can be used for normal purchases like your contents insurance, and gift cards for certain shops, so you get money back for things you'd have had to buy anyway. Not sure if Aldi is on there...

    If you need something, how about you try buying second hand? I bet someone will be selling a set of hair clippers on Facebook marketplace.

    *I actually prefer meat free meals and if it was just me we'd probably eat even less meat, but I appreciate that is a choice based on my food preferences and not necessarily something others are okay with.
    Water: I’ll reach out to them again tomorrow, but they seem adamant that my usage of 319l a day is correct for my property (the meter readings match the info recorded on the account so I believe them to be correct).

    Groceries: How do you manage a family of 4 on £200? That’s 0.40 per person, per meal, without ANY other things like laundry stuff, cleaning products, personal hygiene, medication etc etc? I honestly can’t get my head around it? I don’t have the luxury of discounted products as I’m not near a supermarket. 

    Top Cash Back: I had a look on their website and none of the shops listed are where I go (I’ve not even heard of half of them). So I’m guessing it’s not something I’d benefit from.

    Second Hand: I tend to buy second hand where I can, my desk was from a charity shop (£10), my coffee table and breakfast bar made from wood that was free on marketplace, I’ve never seen hair clippers though haha (I have medium-long hair so clippers wouldn’t do me much good).

    Meat Free: I usually only buy one or two fresh meat specific items a month, generally too expensive, so most of the meat in my diet comes as part of a frozen meal / product. Having meat every day would seem like a luxury.
  • Martico
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    I don't know which your water company is but this is on my water company website.

    How to check for a leak | Leakage | My Supply | Severn Trent Water (stwater.co.uk)
    This is a great link to read through and check out. It might not be your water company's responsibility, it might be yours or your landlord's. It'll be worth taking the time to do these checks
  • Martico
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    edited 19 September 2023 at 7:35PM
    While it's a drop in the bucket (please also forgive the incoming water pun, inspired partly by the thread title) compared to the size of your debt, by all anecdotal accounts - your friend and participants on this thread - you are throwing around £300 per year down the drain. It's up to you to work out if that's from leaks from appliances or fittings in the house, a leak between the meter and your house, or if not it may be a faulty meter. The water company has no responsibility for the first ones
  • stymied
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    Is there any way the meter could be supplying more than one property? Although less likely than a leak.
  • TheAble
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    edited 19 September 2023 at 8:04PM
    Just turn the water off and go and look at the meter already. If the numbers are ticking up then you've got a leak. You simply cannot be using over 300 litres a day as a single person. You either have a leak or you're paying for others' usage as well as your own.

    Your gas and elec numbers are suspect too..
  • Martico said:
    While it's a drop in the bucket (please also forgive the incoming water pun, inspired partly by the thread title) compared to the size of your debt, by all anecdotal accounts - your friend and participants on this thread - you are throwing around £300 per year down the drain. It's up to you to work out if that's from leaks from appliances or fittings in the house, a leak between the meter and your house, or if not it may be a faulty meter. The water company has no responsibility for the first ones
    stymied said:
    Is there any way the meter could be supplying more than one property? Although less likely than a leak.
    TheAble said:
    Just turn the water off and go and look at the meter already. If the numbers are ticking up then you've got a leak. You simply cannot be using over 300 litres a day as a single person. You either have a leak or you're paying for others' usage as well as your own.

    Your gas and elec numbers are suspect too..
    Water: The meter is out at the main road so I’ll check it tomorrow in the daylight before going to work (will I need any specialist tools to open the manhole?). It’s doubtful that it’s feeding multiple properties as everyone has a meter point at the main road from what I can tell and since it’s a new meter the likelihood of a fault is slim. So the leak must be inside the property somewhere (there’s nothing obvious as far as a leak inside - I’ve checked toilets and the other plumbing).

    Gas / Electric: What seems suspect with them?


  • Martico
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    Ask yourself if you think you can possibly use 300 litres of water per day, every day
  • For shopping we try to keep the costs down, and to work with food intolerances. We buy mostly supermarket value products (apart from teabags, I like Yorkshire Tea) and cook almost everything from scratch, including bread. 33p for a tin of tomatoes, about 50p of veg, and 20p of pasta will do a meal for 4, and we alternate days like that with more expensive meals. I think it's harder for one person; we'll buy enough to make 8 or 12 meals, then eat it over 2 days one week and freeze the rest for another week. Whereas you can't take so much advantage of bulk discounts because fresh food won't keep long enough, or you'd need a much bigger freezer. We meal plan and shop once a week, with a separate shop for cereal once a month as Lidls granola is better, and Lidl cheese once a week (cost) and their loo roll is cheaper too.

    We get some home grown food too, which helps. Raspberries have gone crazy this year! Loads of fruit.

    I like an excel spreadsheet by the way, I keep track of everything spent in different categories and have mini challenges e.g. try to have x amount left at the end of the month.
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