Tesla Announces the PW3

Screwdriva
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edited 17 September 2023 at 1:10AM in Green & ethical MoneySaving
Finally! If there ever was a battery for me, this would likely be it! 
-  10 x 400w LG + 6 x 550W SHARP BiFacial Panels + SE 3680 HD Wave Inverter + SE Optimizers. SE London.
-  Triple aspect. (22% ENE/ 33% SSE/ 45% WSW)
-  Viessmann 200-W on Advanced Weather Comp. (the most efficient gas boiler sold)

Feel free to DM me if I can help with any energy saving!
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  • Finally! If there ever was a battery for me, this would likely be it! 
    Ticks all the boxes so far, however one box remains, price!
  • zeupater
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    edited 20 September 2023 at 3:18PM
    Finally! If there ever was a battery for me, this would likely be it! 
    Hi
    Apart from the aesthetics and having a single source manufacturer solution in one box, what's the benefit over something like a Victron Multiplus solution which effectively provides the same technical benefits when correctly specified and installed, with the added advantage of likely providing a more future-proofed scalable solution at a lower initial price? 
    Just curious - Z
    "We are what we repeatedly do, excellence then is not an act, but a habit. " ...... Aristotle
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  • Screwdriva
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    I'm a fan of Victron. That said, 3 points appear to favour Tesla:

    1) Victron installer base is arguably more niche than Tesla
    2) Tesla aftesales/ tech support is good. 
    3) App integration is market leading

    Not sure if the Multiplus can match the disclosed specifications (charge/ discharge rate of 11.5 kWh as an example)? but if it can then it is definitely a viable alternative. 
    -  10 x 400w LG + 6 x 550W SHARP BiFacial Panels + SE 3680 HD Wave Inverter + SE Optimizers. SE London.
    -  Triple aspect. (22% ENE/ 33% SSE/ 45% WSW)
    -  Viessmann 200-W on Advanced Weather Comp. (the most efficient gas boiler sold)

    Feel free to DM me if I can help with any energy saving!
  • zeupater
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    edited 20 September 2023 at 10:02PM
    Hi
    I believe their 48/10000 is rated for 8kW continuous at typical operating temperatures, peaking to 18kW for a supposedly decent time-span (minutes, not seconds!) and there are unit options both larger (eg 15/27kW) & smaller to suit individual requirements.
    What I do like is that their units can be fully operated & data/performance interrogated without access to on-line services, which is probably a decent thing when considering outages or suppliers not maintaining on-line services, ramping up costs of those services, or going bump ...
    HTH - Z
    "We are what we repeatedly do, excellence then is not an act, but a habit. " ...... Aristotle
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  • @Screwdriva not many victron installs around, have you had any experience?
    “Don't raise your voice, improve your argument." - Desmond Tutu

    System 1 - 14 x 250W SunModule SW + Enphase ME215 microinverters (July 2015)
    System 2 - 9.2 KWp + Enphase IQ7+ and IQ8AC (Feb 22 & Sep 24) + Givenergy AC Coupled inverter + 2 * 8.2KWh Battery (May 2022) + Mitsubishi 7.1 KW and 2* Daikin 2.5 KW A2A Heat Pump
  • Screwdriva
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    @Screwdriva not many victron installs around, have you had any experience?
    Just one - took a full day to commission and this was a long time ago. Definitely not a plug and play solution but to ZE's point, highly customizable and good performance when done. Definitely worth hunting down an experienced installer. 
    -  10 x 400w LG + 6 x 550W SHARP BiFacial Panels + SE 3680 HD Wave Inverter + SE Optimizers. SE London.
    -  Triple aspect. (22% ENE/ 33% SSE/ 45% WSW)
    -  Viessmann 200-W on Advanced Weather Comp. (the most efficient gas boiler sold)

    Feel free to DM me if I can help with any energy saving!
  • Screwdriva
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    Quite alot of praise before launch! 

    -  10 x 400w LG + 6 x 550W SHARP BiFacial Panels + SE 3680 HD Wave Inverter + SE Optimizers. SE London.
    -  Triple aspect. (22% ENE/ 33% SSE/ 45% WSW)
    -  Viessmann 200-W on Advanced Weather Comp. (the most efficient gas boiler sold)

    Feel free to DM me if I can help with any energy saving!
  • Qyburn
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    Quite alot of praise before launch! 
    Have you seen any detail on the Tesla "Backup Switch" which looks like it might be a more practical alterbative to the Backup Gateway, at least in our case.
  • Screwdriva
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    edited 18 June 2024 at 10:00AM
    https://www.tesla.com/en_gb/powerwall

    Looks like it has finally launched. Priced at £6.3K + installation including Gateway (which itself costs £800 and is expected to be deprecated soon in favour of a more software based solution)
    -  10 x 400w LG + 6 x 550W SHARP BiFacial Panels + SE 3680 HD Wave Inverter + SE Optimizers. SE London.
    -  Triple aspect. (22% ENE/ 33% SSE/ 45% WSW)
    -  Viessmann 200-W on Advanced Weather Comp. (the most efficient gas boiler sold)

    Feel free to DM me if I can help with any energy saving!
  • Martyn1981
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    https://www.tesla.com/en_gb/powerwall

    Looks like it has finally launched. Priced at £6.3K + installation including Gateway (which itself costs £800 and is expected to be deprecated soon in favour of a more software based solution)
    What interests me the most, is that the PW3 has 3 MPPT's, allowing for direct connection of additional PV, such as ground mount, without DNO issues.

    Note -  obviously the PW3 will need DNO approval as you're adding a grid-tied power source, even if under a zero export application, but the PV would be behind the PW3 and piggyback off the battery's approval. And of course, other hybrid battery/inverter options already exist.
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
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