Apparently no P60s where I work?

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So apparently my workplace doesn't give P60s, I can safely say I've never had any other workplace tell me this.

I am also registered as self-employed, so it means when doing my tax return that I have to manually add up all my PAYE tax paid and student loan payments from each month.

Aswell as this, the useless HR system for my workplace currently isn't working and there are 3 payslips that I can't access... so basically I can't finish my tax return.

Surely every workplace needs to send out P60s??
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  • Flugelhorn
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    I thought it was a legal requirement for the employer to issue a P60 by the 3rd week in May (or something like that)
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    I thought it was a legal requirement for the employer to issue a P60 by the 3rd week in May (or something like that)
    Thanks, I would have thought so to be honest
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  • sheramber
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    Report it to HMRC employers unit. 

    You should see your annual pay and tax in your personal tax account in Government Gateway
  • Grumpy_chap
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    edited 16 September at 9:24PM
    So apparently my workplace doesn't give P60s, I can safely say I've never had any other workplace tell me this.

    I am also registered as self-employed, so it means when doing my tax return that I have to manually add up all my PAYE tax paid and student loan payments from each month.

    Aswell as this, the useless HR system for my workplace currently isn't working and there are 3 payslips that I can't access... so basically I can't finish my tax return.

    Surely every workplace needs to send out P60s??
    I may have read this differently to others and that leaves me a little confused as to what the OP is saying (possibly).

    It is just the OP refers to their "workplace" which is not the most common phraseology for "employer" and then goes on to state they are registered as self-employed.

    Exactly how are you employed at your workplace?

    If the OP is employed on PAYE, then the employer at the workplace should provide P60's (and this is overdue).

    If the OP is self-employed at the workplace, then the OP is responsible for their own tax and NI affairs.

    What exactly are the "payslips" that are missing?  Are these the payslips that an employee would receive, or are these "self-billing invoices" or "transaction details" or some other form of document recording the payments made to the self-employed contractor?

    The way in which the OP is providing services to the workplace can make a difference to the documentation that is provided.

    It may be that I got that entirely wrong and the OP has this "workplace" where they are employed on a regular contract of employment and receive salary via PAYE but then also has additional work elsewhere which is under self-employment.
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    I may have read this differently to others and that leaves me a little confused as to what the OP is saying (possibly).

    It is just the OP refers to their "workplace" which is not the most common phraseology for "employer" and then goes on to state they are registered as self-employed.

    Exactly how are you employed at your workplace?

    If the OP is employed on PAYE, then the employer at the workplace should provide P60's (and this is overdue).

    If the OP is self-employed at the workplace, then the OP is responsible for their own tax and NI affairs.


    It is entirely possible for someone to have income from PAYE employment and from self employment. I took it the OP had a main employment with the payslips for which he is entitled to a P60, and a additionally a second income from self-employment.
  • Marcon
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    So apparently my workplace doesn't give P60s, I can safely say I've never had any other workplace tell me this.

    I am also registered as self-employed, so it means when doing my tax return that I have to manually add up all my PAYE tax paid and student loan payments from each month.

    Aswell as this, the useless HR system for my workplace currently isn't working and there are 3 payslips that I can't access... so basically I can't finish my tax return.

    Surely every workplace needs to send out P60s??
    No, they don't need to 'send out P60s' - but they certainly need to give you online access to them if they don't.
    Googling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!  
  • Grumpy_chap
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    YBR said:

    I may have read this differently to others and that leaves me a little confused as to what the OP is saying (possibly).

    It is just the OP refers to their "workplace" which is not the most common phraseology for "employer" and then goes on to state they are registered as self-employed.

    Exactly how are you employed at your workplace?

    If the OP is employed on PAYE, then the employer at the workplace should provide P60's (and this is overdue).

    If the OP is self-employed at the workplace, then the OP is responsible for their own tax and NI affairs.


    It is entirely possible for someone to have income from PAYE employment and from self employment. I took it the OP had a main employment with the payslips for which he is entitled to a P60, and a additionally a second income from self-employment.
    I think I addressed that possibility in the final part of my post.
  • baser999
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    If the P60 is only needed for the figures, why not use the details on the final payslip for the tax year which surely should be the same. Would save having to add up all the monthly figures which I believe is what the OP was proposing to do.
  • Grumpy_chap
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    baser999 said:
    If the P60 is only needed for the figures, why not use the details on the final payslip for the tax year which surely should be the same. Would save having to add up all the monthly figures which I believe is what the OP was proposing to do.
    The OP also said:
    there are 3 payslips that I can't access...

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