What happens after the work capability assessment?

_Jem_

Thank you everyone I will have a read over the weekend and see if any of that fits me.

Spoonie_Turtle

_Jem_ said:

Thank you everyone I will have a read over the weekend and see if any of that fits me.

Do bear in mind it's whether you can do things repeatedly and without detrimental effects - so if you can do something once but it makes you too breathless to do it again, then you shouldn't be counted as being able to do it.  Or even a couple of times but not often enough as would reasonably be required within a workplace.

It is good you are thinking about what work you may be able to do (often people are the opposite, get stuck on the idea of not being able to do their current/former job and don't realise the assessment is about any ability not just their job) but if you should qualify for LCW then it just gives you some breathing space.  It would also mean you could try part-time to start with to ease back in, if you find something suitable, without any pressure from the jobcentre to increase earnings.

If you really don't meet the criteria for any of them then it does sound like you have a good, empathetic work coach at least, so hopefully they'd still tailor your requirements to your circumstances anyway.

huckster

Ask the Work Coach about being referred to Work & Health Programme which can provide additional help to get you back into suitable work.  This should ensure that you have more tailored help with a provider outside of the Job Centre and fewer Work Search appointments at the Job Centre.

_Jem_

Spoonie_Turtle said:

_Jem_ said:

Thank you everyone I will have a read over the weekend and see if any of that fits me.

Do bear in mind it's whether you can do things repeatedly and without detrimental effects - so if you can do something once but it makes you too breathless to do it again, then you shouldn't be counted as being able to do it.  Or even a couple of times but not often enough as would reasonably be required within a workplace.

It is good you are thinking about what work you may be able to do (often people are the opposite, get stuck on the idea of not being able to do their current/former job and don't realise the assessment is about any ability not just their job) but if you should qualify for LCW then it just gives you some breathing space.  It would also mean you could try part-time to start with to ease back in, if you find something suitable, without any pressure from the jobcentre to increase earnings.

If you really don't meet the criteria for any of them then it does sound like you have a good, empathetic work coach at least, so hopefully they'd still tailor your requirements to your circumstances anyway.

Yes that's the problem I'm having it's doing things repeatedly where i soon get out of breath as I explained in the assessment, I told the person I can put something on the table fine but I soon get out of breath if it's repeated a couple more times. I even explained that for me to complete things I have to take my time a pause alot of times simple things like cleaning turns into a long job. I can't see any job being relaxed about me taking my time.

I suppose I was too calm in the assessment and probably went very unprepared because I was expecting to have a appointment with the respiratory clinic in the next couple of weeks if not then before my fit note runs out at the end of October, So I was totally shocked to find out that the doctor hadn't put it down as urgent so I'm not going to get a appointment way into next year.

By Reading everything I think being put on LCW would help me alot. I must admit the Work Coach was nice unfortunately I'm not with that Work Coach anymore.

I see in the letter it's saying you can ask us to reconsider decision through your journal, Which category in the journal do you do this in ?

huckster said:

Ask the Work Coach about being referred to Work & Health Programme which can provide additional help to get you back into suitable work.  This should ensure that you have more tailored help with a provider outside of the Job Centre and fewer Work Search appointments at the Job Centre.

Thanks I will mention that but what I have heard they aren't very good in my area but certainly worth a try.

Alice_Holt

"I see in the letter it's saying you can ask us to reconsider decision through your journal, Which category in the journal do you do this in ?"

I'd tend to do the MR formally in writing:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/683380/if-you-disagree-with-a-decision-made-by-dwp.PDF

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/universal-credit/problems-with-your-payment/challenging-a-universal-credit-decision-mandatory-consideration/ 


Put as much detail as you can about not being able to do the WCA tasks repeatedly and timely. 
Also (if relevant) any risk to your health due to work.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/universal-credit/if-youre-sick-or-disabled/fill-in-the-work-capability-form-how-your-conditions-affect-you/

https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/employment-and-support-allowance/esa-glossary/work-related-activity-group-descriptors

Include any supporting  medical evidence  / confirmation letters from family / close friends, etc if you have them. Keep a copy, and get proof of posting.

It will likely run to appeal - so see if your local advice charity can help:
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/universal-credit/problems-with-your-payment/appealing-a-universal-credit-decision-at-a-tribunal/

_Jem_

Thank you, I did find that the questions asked to me was completely irrelevant to what is happening to me as I'm sure it's the same for alot of people. Yes I can do everything myself moving my arms etc.. but doing things more and more is what completely gets me out of breath. Simple things is a task for me like making the bed clean sheets etc.. that tires me out and feels like I don't have enough strength to carry on. So a job is going to be hard to me. Yes they will probably say you could work in a office where you don't have to move around at all, I would be on board with that if I didn't have to use my voice but let's look at this in the real world I have no experience for office type of jobs. My job experience is manual moving around work.

Walking up some stairs yes it's possible for me to do but I get out of breath doing it.

Newcad

_Jem_ said:

Edit: The letter was added to my journal. Saying I do not have limited capability for work and maybe able to do some type of work.

Yes that is the exact wording from the first line of the of the 'Fit for Work' notification letter.

"Following your Work Capability Assessment we’ve decided that you do not have limited capability for work and can do some type of work."

PS. I have found an example of the letter (I had an example on my laptop all along, its called a UCD83) so you may get a written letter as well as the note on your journal.

Others have already given above what you need to do to challenge that decision, and the advice is always to challenge a fit-for-work decision.
I also suggest that you get help to request a Mandatory Reconsideration, and then appeal.
The advisor will have done many, many, of them for clients and so knows how best to word things for your individual circumstances.

At my first WCA I was also found Fit for Work, I challenged it and was awarded Limited Capability for Work at the appeal, I have been LCW for 11 years now (ESA at first and now UC) and every WCA I have had since that first one have all awarded LCW straight off.