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Advice need - landlords accessing garden too much for comfort

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  • If you put a lock on the gate make sure it's down the bottom of at the middle, not the top. I imagine he will just learn over and unlock it otherwise.
  • If it's a wooden gate:

    https://www.toolstation.com/dd-lokklatch/p68090

    Talking about why it's not appropriate first is probably better than a bold statement of jumping to locking the gate. 
    In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces
  • 35har1old
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    edited 15 September 2023 at 10:48PM
    If you put a lock on the gate make sure it's down the bottom of at the middle, not the top. I imagine he will just learn over and unlock it otherwise.
    Where is he going to get the key?

  • 35har1old
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    TheJP said:
    35har1old said:
    TheJP said:
    You need to agree a set time each week that they come round to do the work, i don't think that's unreasonable. Let the letting agent sort this for you as that's their job. 
    What if it rains making it impossible to mow the lawn that day.
    Has the house the capacity to store a lawn mower
    Well you engage some common sense then. 'Hi, its raining is it ok to come round tomorrow or ill leave it until next week'. The storage of the lawnmower isn't the problem for the OP if the LL is maintaining the garden.
    He said he wanted to take over that chore.
  • 35har1old
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    ka7e said:
    Section62 said:
    ka7e said:
    I would think it's entirely reasonable to have a lock on your garden gate for your own security and peace of mind. Tell the letting agent you are fitting a lock on the inside (so the LL cannot ask for a key to let himself in) as recommended by crime prevention agencies. He will now be required to give notice so the gate can be unlocked for his visits.
    What gives you confidence the landlord won't respond to that move by commencing the process to end the tenancy?  Is that outcome something the OP wants, or would prefer to avoid?

    The alternative being the OP suck it up and continues to have his privacy and quiet enjoyment violated? I said it is a "reasonable" expectation to be allowed a lock on your gate for security reasons and the relationship with the LL has been fairly cordial. The LL also risks having to go through the eviction process with a good tenant who has not been in arrears, and finding another reliable tenant who has no objection to him wandering around their garden.
    As the tenancy is coming up for renewal there is no eviction process required
  • 35har1old said:
    If you put a lock on the gate make sure it's down the bottom of at the middle, not the top. I imagine he will just learn over and unlock it otherwise.
    Where is he going to get the key?

    I was just imagining a bolt but no padlock tbh. A padlock feels a bit extreme.
  • Flugelhorn
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    It is very curious - not sure that I have come across a place where a rented house has the garden done by the LL - though I am sure it does happen. In a leasehold flat with gardens (whether owned or rented) the gardeners turn up, mostly on the same day of the week - sometimes changed if it rains, - suppose the difference is that we aren't treating the grounds as private gardens and expecting to sunbathe at any time we feel like it.
  • Grumpy_chap
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    35har1old said:
    ka7e said:
    Section62 said:
    ka7e said:
    I would think it's entirely reasonable to have a lock on your garden gate for your own security and peace of mind. Tell the letting agent you are fitting a lock on the inside (so the LL cannot ask for a key to let himself in) as recommended by crime prevention agencies. He will now be required to give notice so the gate can be unlocked for his visits.
    What gives you confidence the landlord won't respond to that move by commencing the process to end the tenancy?  Is that outcome something the OP wants, or would prefer to avoid?

    The alternative being the OP suck it up and continues to have his privacy and quiet enjoyment violated? I said it is a "reasonable" expectation to be allowed a lock on your gate for security reasons and the relationship with the LL has been fairly cordial. The LL also risks having to go through the eviction process with a good tenant who has not been in arrears, and finding another reliable tenant who has no objection to him wandering around their garden.
    As the tenancy is coming up for renewal there is no eviction process required
    I understood it was an AST and the discussion is about "renewal" being another fixed term.  If nothing is agreed, it will become a rolling tenancy.  The tenant doesn't just have to leave at the end of the fixed term.
  • BobT36
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    35har1old said:
    As the tenancy is coming up for renewal there is no eviction process required
    I understood it was an AST and the discussion is about "renewal" being another fixed term.  If nothing is agreed, it will become a rolling tenancy.  The tenant doesn't just have to leave at the end of the fixed term.
    Pretty crazy how many people (both tenants, landlords AND agencies) misunderstand this point.. 
  • BobT36 said:
    35har1old said:
    As the tenancy is coming up for renewal there is no eviction process required
    I understood it was an AST and the discussion is about "renewal" being another fixed term.  If nothing is agreed, it will become a rolling tenancy.  The tenant doesn't just have to leave at the end of the fixed term.
    Pretty crazy how many people (both tenants, landlords AND agencies) misunderstand this point.. 
    Quite the contrary I think everyone including tenants, LL and agencies understand that once a new contract is presented you either sign it or risk a section 21.

    Everyone wants security and that's what a 12 month AST provides for all parties.
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