Tenant broke washing machine outer part

GDB2222

Of course, if it is a £50 repair, that’s what the op is entitled to. But the OP has said it needs replacing.  If it needs a new case that obviously can’t be done for £50.

[Deleted User]

Hi,

OP, any chance of a wee photie of damage?

lookstraightahead

GDB2222 said:

lookstraightahead said:

GDB2222 said:

The landlord doesn’t need to put up with a visually broken machine that still works.  Leaving that in place might well result in lower rent from incoming tenants.

He is entitled to the depreciated value of the machine he bought for £510. That might be around half of that amount after 3/4 years. 

I guess the tenant can come and pick up the broken machine if he thinks it useful.  Once he’s paid for it!

I doubt a 4-year plus washing machine is worth anywhere near half its original value tbh 

£510 is not a low end machine. A ten year lifespan if properly used is reasonable. We replaced our Miele after 16 years, and it was still working fine. 

None of these machines have any secondhand value, but that’s not the basis on which compensation is calculated. It’s based on the original value depreciated in a straight line over a reasonable anticipated lifetime.  

Ah ok. I didn't realise that.

However, if it's a lifespan based on proper use, theoretically the landlord will have to prove that it had been used and looked after properly prior to this tenant moving in. Im sure they don't in reality, but it doesn't seem fair. 

I'd never rent with white goods included. Or any furniture tbh.

jimbog

If you are successful, what do you intend to do with the old one? Expecting them to take it with them or selling it and forwarding the money to the tenants?

lookstraightahead

jimbog said:

If you are successful, what do you intend to do with the old one? Expecting them to take it with them or selling it and forwarding the money to the tenants?

Often landlords don't replace at all. They don't have to. Which I think is ridiculous. 

SiliconChip

GDB2222 said:

lookstraightahead said:

GDB2222 said:

The landlord doesn’t need to put up with a visually broken machine that still works.  Leaving that in place might well result in lower rent from incoming tenants.

He is entitled to the depreciated value of the machine he bought for £510. That might be around half of that amount after 3/4 years. 

I guess the tenant can come and pick up the broken machine if he thinks it useful.  Once he’s paid for it!

I doubt a 4-year plus washing machine is worth anywhere near half its original value tbh 

None of these machines have any secondhand value

That's a slightly odd opinion, there is a large market in second hand washing machines (and other household white goods), I bought one to replace the broken machine in the flat that I was letting out about 15 years ago.

CSI_Yorkshire

SiliconChip said:

GDB2222 said:

lookstraightahead said:

GDB2222 said:

The landlord doesn’t need to put up with a visually broken machine that still works.  Leaving that in place might well result in lower rent from incoming tenants.

He is entitled to the depreciated value of the machine he bought for £510. That might be around half of that amount after 3/4 years. 

I guess the tenant can come and pick up the broken machine if he thinks it useful.  Once he’s paid for it!

I doubt a 4-year plus washing machine is worth anywhere near half its original value tbh 

None of these machines have any secondhand value

That's a slightly odd opinion, there is a large market in second hand washing machines (and other household white goods), I bought one to replace the broken machine in the flat that I was letting out about 15 years ago.

Perhaps better phrased as "these machines often only have nominal second hand value".

As far as I'm aware, you can't sell a 4 year old washing machine for hundreds of pounds.  They seem to sell for next-to-nothing.

[Deleted User]

Hi,

BrightonPalace said:

Hi everyone,

My tenant have broken outer part of my washing machine, they also covered with white stuff.  
The washing machine works properly but I cannot fix the problem, I need to buy a new one.  
We have a deposit dispute going on at the moment, they claim is wear and tear even do the part of the machine is clearly broken (this is not wear and tear).

The machine was only 3 years when they moved in and cost 510 pounds; I can prove with the invoice.
If I replace the washing machine, do I charge them the full amount or I need to consider wear and tear?

I appreciate any suggestion on the matter.  

Thanks in advance

so machine was 3 years when tenant moved in, how long ago was that?

Wear and tear is caused by regular usage, so quite plausible.

Still no reply to "white stuff" query, can you explain?

theartfullodger

Surely not tenant broke it but it broke whilst tenanted - could be wear 'n tear, manufacturing defect etc etc.

Just because tenanted doesn't mean it's tenants fault... 

GDB2222

SiliconChip said:

GDB2222 said:

lookstraightahead said:

GDB2222 said:

The landlord doesn’t need to put up with a visually broken machine that still works.  Leaving that in place might well result in lower rent from incoming tenants.

He is entitled to the depreciated value of the machine he bought for £510. That might be around half of that amount after 3/4 years. 

I guess the tenant can come and pick up the broken machine if he thinks it useful.  Once he’s paid for it!

I doubt a 4-year plus washing machine is worth anywhere near half its original value tbh 

None of these machines have any secondhand value

That's a slightly odd opinion, there is a large market in second hand washing machines (and other household white goods), I bought one to replace the broken machine in the flat that I was letting out about 15 years ago.

I agree that they are saleable, but the value is very low compared to new price.  They are expensive to transport, etc.