PCN from Parkingeye for allegedly parking in a hotel

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hirersezn said:

After being sick for a while i am ready to draft my appeal. However i cannot seem to find a similar template to my case and also being after 2017; (ParkingEye popla hotel).

Would it be okay to use another template that is PE but not related to my case?

Just search the forum for POPLA HOTEL and change to NEWEST results.

Stop only looking for PE cases.

Fruitcake

Use all the points available to you from the third post of the NEWBIES. Your point 1 will be non-PoFA compliant NTH based on your initial appeal, but specifically state that PE failed to comply with paras 13 and 14 of the PoFA as they did not supply copies of the documents required by those paragraphs.

Your other points will include,

Not the landowner
No standing to issue charges in their own name
Inadequate signage
Any BPA CoP failures
Anything else relevant.

hirersezn

I've partially completed my popla draft, however since i am bad with words i am unable to describe with the photos.

I believe i have to included images so i had to travel to the location to snap some photos, now i don't know where to include it in my appeal.

Here's the album for the photos if i could receive some guidance. https://ibb.co/album/gmSyHv

**By the way the ANPR cameras capture your plate when you enter and exit the hotel lobby not the actual car park itself.

patient_dream

hirersezn said:

**By the way the ANPR cameras capture your plate when you enter and exit the hotel lobby not the actual car park itself.

And that is the problem with ANPR, it just takes pictures of number plates with no understanding WHY ?
Clearly PE knew you were a taxi doing your job.

No one could blame a taxi firm who blacklisted a hotel .... the customers could blame the hotel though

Fruitcake

hirersezn said:

I've partially completed my popla draft, however since i am bad with words i am unable to describe with the photos.

I believe i have to included images so i had to travel to the location to snap some photos, now i don't know where to include it in my appeal.

Here's the album for the photos if i could receive some guidance. https://ibb.co/album/gmSyHv

**By the way the ANPR cameras capture your plate when you enter and exit the hotel lobby not the actual car park itself.

PoPLA appeals normally have a point about Inadequate, or Confusing/Misleading Signage, so you would include photos (not links) in that point. Signage includes surface markings.

You should have a separate point about Predatory Positioning of ANPR Scameras, and a point that loading/unloading (of goods and/or passengers) is not parking as determined in Jopson v Homueguard, case number B9GF0A9E.

Landowner complaints are always the best way to get a PCN killed off. Go as high up as you can to the hotel manager and/or hotel/hotel chain CEO.

A formal letter from the head of your company to the manager/CEO that the hotel will be blacklisted if this isn't cancelled, and if other taxis are similarly ticketed wouldn't hurt.
Contact other taxi/private hire companies to warn them as well. 

This doesn't affect your point 1. Do a forum search for other hire or lease PoPLA appeals.

"Non-PoFA compliant NTH based on your initial appeal, but specifically state that PE failed to comply with paras 13 and 14 of the PoFA as they did not supply copies of the documents required by those paragraphs."

hirersezn

I have completed my Popla appeal, please review for submission. Thanks

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UZHsy7Mtly2KFoPEfFdarlp6Jq23U9NX/view?usp=drive_link

Fruitcake

I've only skim read it, but it looks okay except perhaps you could do to expand on point 5 about the positioning of the ANPR scameras. Highlight the fact that a vehicle can pick up/drop off passengers and luggage in the lobby area but not enter the car park, yet still be caught on the ANPR system without actually parking.

This positioning of the scameras is a predatory tactic, and obtaining the personal data of motorists from the DVLA who have not parked and not breached the parking terms is a data breach.
Include this in your complaints to the hotel CEO/manager, your MP, the BPA, and DVLA.

hirersezn

I have updated and added your points.

Heres the revision: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1X8Rkx9BAz9vLfvSMof640xwaeXgZePp6/view?usp=sharing

Any input appreciated.

hirersezn

^ Is my updated POPLA appeal any good? I plan to submit it tomorrow as my deadline is nearing.

hirersezn

I am back. So ParkingEye have responded

Here's the document they provided: Google Drive PDF

There is a box for me to comment (POPLA Website) on but I don't know what I should write. I have written everything on my appeal and submitted it.