Council tax banding

lincroft1710

Slinky said:

We extended our previous home which should have moved it into the next band up when we sold it, only the council missed putting an improvement indicator on their records (which they knew about as it was done with PP and under BC oversight). So far 4 years on it's still in the old band and nobody appears to have noticed. 

I wonder how far back they can retrospectively apply the charges if/when they realise.

Probably it would only be picked up if a neighbour said their band was too high and quoted your house as a comparable.

In England the increased band cannot be backdated, in Wales it can be

juliedee4663

This exact same thing happened to us, we were hit with a significant Council Tax Band rise because of work done by previous owners. They don't back date it, but the new band is in place going forward.

housebuyer143

Sergiomorri said:

daivid said:

Are you in England or Wales? Wales is due a CT re-evaluation soon I believe. I don’t see any risk of back payment though as I agree there is nothing suggesting a purchaser needs to make any declarations.

We are in England so hopefully they won’t do the same here in the near future

As much as I know it's a money making scam the revaluation, there is something to be said about fairness in the system. They plan to add more bands so someone in a 4 million pound house isn't paying the same council tax as someone in a 750k one. 

It's worth considering that someone who extended a 2 bed but has made it 4 beds and has crammed 6 people into it are using lots of council resources such as schools etc but are paying the same as someone who lives nextdoor with only 2 people. 

In my area, I pay more council tax than every other 4 bed I have checked in the entire borough and more than the same sized houses 300yds away and from what I can gather I pay the same as some 5 and 6 beds near me 🤷‍♂️ but yet it's not worth any more than the other 4 beds at todays prices, just so happened to be a pricey house when it was built.

England could probably create more fairness in the system by re-evaluating the bands as it's been 32 years since they have done it. 

CSI_Yorkshire

What a bizarre post.

According to you, they're creating more fairness in the system both by adding new bands for the largest properties and addressing the problem of over-occupied using more services than they might be funding - both things that you agree with - and yet this is "a money making scam"?

I suggest you look up the meaning of the word 'scam'.

daivid

housebuyer143 said:

In my area, I pay more council tax than every other 4 bed I have checked in the entire borough and more than the same sized houses 300yds away and from what I can gather I pay the same as some 5 and 6 beds near me 🤷‍♂️ but yet it's not worth any more than the other 4 beds at todays prices, just so happened to be a pricey house when it was built.

I pay more on my 4bed (and everyone else on the estate with one) than every 5 bed house on the estate. It goes back to 1991 and there is no useful sale data to challenge my house's band. I could challenge the banding for the estate as there is a glaring error that more valuable houses are and always have been banded lower than mine but I cannot see it benefitting me and I won’t be popular if I increase the CT for my 5bed neighbours. I'm in favour of a general reassessment for that reason and for the possibility of higher bands being added for more valuable houses.

daivid

AlexMac said:

…I’d assumed my CT band wouldn’t change unless and until I sold (which may or may not happen before they carry me out in a box?). 

Until sold  or as part of a general re-banding. There is one planned for Wales in 2025, the current Westminster government seem to have no appetite to make any CT changes.

housebuyer143

CSI_Yorkshire said:

What a bizarre post.

According to you, they're creating more fairness in the system both by adding new bands for the largest properties and addressing the problem of over-occupied using more services than they might be funding - both things that you agree with - and yet this is "a money making scam"?

I suggest you look up the meaning of the word 'scam'.

It just so happens it's potentially fairer this time around but I in no way think this was the Welsh government driver behind doing it and I believe the majority are going to see their bills increase.
It's a money making excersize regardless of how many times they say it isn't. The consultation was firmly against it, but they press on anyway as always. 
At the last revaluation more saw their bills increase than those who saw them reduce. 

CSI_Yorkshire

housebuyer143 said:

CSI_Yorkshire said:

What a bizarre post.

According to you, they're creating more fairness in the system both by adding new bands for the largest properties and addressing the problem of over-occupied using more services than they might be funding - both things that you agree with - and yet this is "a money making scam"?

I suggest you look up the meaning of the word 'scam'.

It just so happens it's potentially fairer this time but I in no way think this was the Welsh government driver and I believe the majority are going to see their bills increase, as it's a money making excersize regardless of how many times they say it isn't. 
At the last revaluation more saw their bills increase then those who saw them reduce. 

Substantially more houses have been extended than have been down-sized.

housebuyer143

CSI_Yorkshire said:

housebuyer143 said:

CSI_Yorkshire said:

What a bizarre post.

According to you, they're creating more fairness in the system both by adding new bands for the largest properties and addressing the problem of over-occupied using more services than they might be funding - both things that you agree with - and yet this is "a money making scam"?

I suggest you look up the meaning of the word 'scam'.

It just so happens it's potentially fairer this time but I in no way think this was the Welsh government driver and I believe the majority are going to see their bills increase, as it's a money making excersize regardless of how many times they say it isn't. 
At the last revaluation more saw their bills increase then those who saw them reduce. 

Substantially more houses have been extended than have been down-sized.

It's all going to come down to the bandings and the prices that fall into each one and the tax bill they associate with it. No one is able to say at this stage who might pay more and why. 
Maybe they decide all £250k houses should be in a higher band and pay more just because... Unfortunately I don't really have much faith in how it will be done but there is a first time for everything I suppose. 

sheramber

We bought a house where the attic of the bungalow had been converted into 2 bedrooms and a bathroom.

We received a letter from the council telling us that no change in the banding was necessary.