Parking Code evidence - pictures of signs with no £ DRA fee quantified or prominently stated

Whatever2023

Most operators use hybrid mail; therefore, have the capacity to provide a certificate of postage. 

Coupon-mad

Whatever2023 said:

Most operators use hybrid mail; therefore, have the capacity to provide a certificate of postage. 

Yes but they don't produce it, and neither the BPA nor IPC care either way.

Nellymoser

Whatever2023 said:

Most operators use hybrid mail; therefore, have the capacity to provide a certificate of postage. 

That's good to know.

Le_Kirk

Signed, now up to 39 sigs only 9,000 or more required!

jmccabe

Trainerman said:

Thanks for listing it. I have signed it but it really needs a big push to get anywhere. I do think this is a crucial part of stopping some of the worst practices of rogue companies.

Call me a cynic ( guilty ) but I think the non posting or late posting of documents is all part of the deliberate ratcheting up of pressure on victims, many of them vulnerable

Thanks for signing (I created the petition). It definitely needs a big push; the best way I can think of, for now, would be for anyone who's seen it to share it wherever makes sense, e.g. Facebook, X, etc. I've done it amongst my friend but, obviously, a lot of people probably don't realise the need for it until the time comes when they're having demands for money arrive based on letters they've never seen before!

As far as "cynic" goes, I wouldn't call you a cynic for believing that stuff - I feel the same way.

jmccabe

Whatever2023 said:

Most operators use hybrid mail; therefore, have the capacity to provide a certificate of postage. 

Isn't a certificate of postage is different from confirmation of delivery? What's cared about here is delivery; as a recipient of a letter demanding money and saying that I haven't responded to earlier letters, I want the sender to provide tracking information that shows the letter has been delivered, not that it's been sent.

Fruitcake

Both the PoFA and the Interpretation Act state that something posted is presumed to have been delivered in two working days if sent first class, or four working days if sent second class.
Therefore two Acts of Parliament (the law) state this presumption. Therefore, if you have proof of posting, the law presumes it was delivered. 
If a PPC can't or won't prove a document was sent, then there can be no presumption that it was delivered. The presumption then is that it was never sent.

Sending something signed for is no good because if the recipient refuses to sign for the item, then they have proof it was not delivered.

Jenni_D

Something can still be sent Tracked though, where the postie signs that it has been delivered?

But yes - proof of posting is still way better than the current situation; the above would just add cost.

Trainerman

Jenni_D said:

Something can still be sent Tracked though, where the postie signs that it has been delivered?

But yes - proof of posting is still way better than the current situation; the above would just add cost.

I think that is the central point. IF PPCs had to provide proof of posting, most (if not all) of these missing letters would magically start arriving on time !

Which is why they do not want to do it 

Trainerman

jmccabe said:

Trainerman said:

Thanks for listing it. I have signed it but it really needs a big push to get anywhere. I do think this is a crucial part of stopping some of the worst practices of rogue companies.

Call me a cynic ( guilty ) but I think the non posting or late posting of documents is all part of the deliberate ratcheting up of pressure on victims, many of them vulnerable

Thanks for signing (I created the petition). It definitely needs a big push; the best way I can think of, for now, would be for anyone who's seen it to share it wherever makes sense, e.g. Facebook, X, etc. I've done it amongst my friend but, obviously, a lot of people probably don't realise the need for it until the time comes when they're having demands for money arrive based on letters they've never seen before!

As far as "cynic" goes, I wouldn't call you a cynic for believing that stuff - I feel the same way.

I have put it on facebook too. Come on folks, do likewise and give it a real push !!!

Apologies for slight thread hijack