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Parking Code evidence - pictures of signs with £50, £60 or £70 PCN and no £ DRA fee on the sign

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  • NCC1701-A
    NCC1701-A Posts: 431 Forumite
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    No mention of DRA fees, Charing Cross hospital London, today 31 May

  • Nellymoser
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    M&S SIMPLY FOOD 

    Scotland DD5

    No mention of Debt fees but in the tiny orange font it says 'Additional charges will be incurred from further civil action being taken'
  • Umkomaas
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    M&S SIMPLY FOOD 

    Scotland DD5

    No mention of Debt fees but in the tiny orange font it says 'Additional charges will be incurred from further civil action being taken'
    And acting as an Agent, no locus to sue through the courts in their own right.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 1 June at 12:46PM
    Another one from a family member who walked past this one in Brighton today:



    I mean clamping only became a criminal offence a mere thirteen years ago but the IPC clearly reckons this is perfectly acceptable.

    Nothing at all about UKGDPR-required data collection/use info, nothing about surveillance except a random 
    camera icon (which suggests to an average person that the purpose is security, which it isn't).

    Nothing readable about any debt recovery fee add-on (clue: it's buried in that small print but not quantified). 
    Again blowing out of the water the excuse that "it's a deterrent".
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  • Car1980
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    Why use 100 point text when you can use 24 point instead eh?
    But it's all there and clear judge!
  • Castle
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    Car1980 said:
    Why use 100 point text when you can use 24 point instead eh?
    But it's all there and clear judge!
    "As we can prove by this enlarged "office " copy."
  • Coupon-mad
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    Another one, taken from this news article:

    https://www.miltonkeynes.co.uk/news/people/i-fought-parking-fine-company-over-wrongful-ticket-and-won-my-appeal-but-i-also-want-an-apology-says-milton-keynes-motorist-5149592



    £100 is in big text 

    Terms are large and non-cluttered 


    But nothing whatsoever to support PPC World's excuse that increasing the massive charge again to £170 is 'a deterrent'.

    It's not even mentioned, as usual, and the deterrent is the £100 parking charge itself.
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  • NCC1701-A
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    edited 2 June at 8:54AM
    Kingston Hospital, 1 June.  IAS firm who add unspecified charges if original sum not paid - could be £5, could be £5m. Does their choice of wording specifying the driver being responsible for such additional charges mean keeper can't be even if pursued under PoFA?


  • Fruitcake
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    edited 2 June at 2:08PM
    Angel Place shopping precinct car park, Bridgwater, Somerset.
    Very few signs, large areas of car park without signs at all, tiny font, mention of additional charges (in tiny font at knee level) but not quantified, plus an additional charge for using the pay by App method.




    Hopefully this video should show that Pay Machine touch pads will generate spurious random characters if your hand or perhaps the cuff of a jacket is near the screen but not actually touching it because they are proximity screens, not true touch pads.

    Car park pay machine generates incorrect registration mark - YouTube

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  • Coupon-mad
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    Good video, and all good signage evidence that no driver seeing those signs knows - or is deterred by - any DRA fee enhancement.
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