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Parking Code evidence - pictures of signs with no £ DRA fee quantified or prominently stated

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  • Coupon-mad
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    It will happen.  But articles like the one from the RAC Foundation are welcome to keep the pressure up to get this done.

    Public Consultation expected soon.
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  • patient_dream
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    It will happen.  But articles like the one from the RAC Foundation are welcome to keep the pressure up to get this done.

    Public Consultation expected soon.
    This is not a dig at you, we all know your hard work with this

    Another consultation ????  They already know what is happening to the public. How will they tell the public ?  Major Media Advertising maybe, don't think so

    This government bunch are simply taking the P
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 15 March 2024 at 10:28PM
    But as a regular, you knew already that a final Public Consultation is necessary.  It's mentioned on this thread. This isn't new and the Government aren't doing it for fun.
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  • patient_dream
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    But as a regular, you knew already that a final Public Consultation is necessary.  It's mentioned on this thread. This isn't new and the Government aren't doing it for fun.
    It's not necessary, the scam has been in the public domain for years. For this consultaion to be effective, , every motorist in the UK should have the chance to respond ... that is not going to happen ..... what is the point unless they are going to advertise throughout the media .. is that what they will do ?
  • Coupon-mad
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    It is necessary.
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  • patient_dream
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    edited 15 March 2024 at 11:12PM
    It is necessary.
    so how will they tell the motoring public throughout the UK.
    They never bothered with a consultation with the barge in Weymouth Bay .... sorry Coupon, it's a sham
  • ParkingMad
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    Here is the newspaper article:

    Private parking firms issue 35,000 fines every day

    Promised government crackdown was withdrawn in 2022 following a legal threat by the private parking industry
    Gareth Corfield 15 March 2024 • 12:01am

    Private firms are issuing an average of more than 35,000 parking tickets to drivers every day amid a government failure to introduce a code of practice to regulate the industry.
    An analysis by the RAC Foundation, the motoring research charity, of government data found that 9.7 million parking tickets were issued to drivers by private parking companies between April and December last year – equivalent to nearly 35,300 a day.
    Each ticket can cost drivers up to £100, meaning the total daily loss to motorists can approach £3.5 million.
    The RAC said drivers may feel “badly let down” by the Government after a promised crackdown was withdrawn in 2022 following a legal threat by the private parking industry.

    Framework withdrawn in 2022

    Friday marks the five-year anniversary of the Parking (Code of Practice) Bill receiving Royal Assent and becoming law.
    Ministers passed the law after promising to regulate private parking operators, who have been accused of using misleading and confusing signs, aggressive debt collection tactics and imposing unreasonable fees.
    However, the operators threatened a legal challenge against the Government, resulting in the framework being withdrawn in 2022 after just six months.
    The code – originally laid before Parliament in February 2022 and due to come into force across Britain by the end of last year – stated that the cap on tickets for some parking offences should be halved to £50.
    Steve Gooding, the director of the RAC Foundation, said: “Since March 2019, many things have happened. The five years have seen us through four prime ministers, a pandemic and a cost of living crisis.
    “But what we’ve not seen is the implementation of the protections MPs were queuing up to support when the Parking (Code of Practice) Act made its way on to the statute book all those years ago.”
    A spokesman for the Department for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities said it would run a public consultation exercise “in due course”.
    “We remain committed to introducing the Private Parking Code of Practice to help improve the regulation of the private parking system,” said the spokesman. “The Government continues to work with the industry and consumer groups to reissue the code as quickly as possible.”

    Yellow boxes bigger than needed

    The news comes as the RAC revealed that almost all yellow box road junctions responsible for generating the most fines in London and Cardiff are bigger than necessary.
    Sam Wright, a chartered engineer, was commissioned by the motor insurer to analyse the 100 boxes across the two cities that were responsible for generating the most fines in 2019. He found that 98 were larger than necessary to prevent queuing vehicles blocking the path of crossing traffic.
    London and Cardiff were the only parts of the UK in which drivers could be fined for yellow box offences. In other areas, only police forces were able to punish motorists for driving into box junctions when they should not.
    However, the Government introduced new legislation in May 2022 to enable councils across England to apply for enforcement powers. A group of 27 councils have since applied for powers to issue traffic fines.

  • Galloglass
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    It is necessary.
    Here are the Government's own Consultation principles. Note the comment about "Consultation exercises should not generally be launched during local or national election periods." So there is the possibility that

    a) it gets kicked into the long grass until the next lot take over or 
    b) it gets moved along and made law under the "wash up**" between parliaments.

    Is there a chance of pushing option b?

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5aafa4f2e5274a7fbe4fbacb/Consultation_Principles__1_.pdf

    ** https://www.parliament.uk/site-information/glossary/wash-up/
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    • When on someone else's be it a road, a pavement, a right of way or a property there are rules. Don't assume there are none.
    • "Free parking" doesn't mean free of rules. Check the rules and if you don't like them, go elsewhere
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  • Coupon-mad
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    I'm aware of (b) and would be happy with that.  But I'm hoping it will push through just in time.
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