Parking Code evidence - pictures of signs with £50, £60 or £70 PCN and no £ DRA fee on the sign

Fruitcake

Everyone (especially motorists from Wales) should include this from the Welsh Government website concerning hospital parking charges, which is in line with Option 3 of the IA.

WN (Year) Number (gov.wales)

 Car parking enforcement charges should be no more than charges levied by local authorities within the Health Board/Trust area; 

Castle

pinkelephant12 said:

Castle said:

The increase from 1.9 Million requests in 2012/13 to 8.4 Million in 2019/20 is an annual growth of 20.4% over those 8 years.

Are there any statistics for the growth in the number of ANPR cameras used in private car parks?  

According to 3.4 of the Impact Assessment:
"The most recent British Parking Association (BPA) census data states that 86% of charges issued by its members are issued via ANPR or MNPR cameras – up from 33% in 2011".

Umkomaas

or MNPR cameras

Why on earth is the DLUHC giving 'MNPR' any status?  It was 'MNPR' that was manipulated by UKPC weasels. How are PPCs checking the accuracy of every weasel's iPhone camera, or more so those of self ticketers?

patient_dream

Umkomaas said:

or MNPR cameras

Why on earth is the DLUHC giving 'MNPR' any status?  It was 'MNPR' that was manipulated by UKPC weasels. How are PPCs checking the accuracy of every weasel's iPhone camera, or more so those of self ticketers?

The DLUHC simply don't have a clue how deep this scam goes

Coupon-mad

I suspect they do - you need to trust me - but  please keep this thread on topic (no political rants please).

We need newbies to know what's needed.

I am calling for photo evidence please.

State in your reply which town and site they come from.  London ones especially welcome but all are good to show UK wide examples

patient_dream

Coupon-mad said:

I suspect they do - you need to trust me - but  please keep this thread on topic (no political rants please).

We need newbies to know what's needed.

I am calling for photos but it's back on page 6:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6463361/dluhc-private-parking-code-government-launches-call-for-evidence-discussion-thread/p6

We all trust you but where are all the people who can give evidence coming from ?
Apart from here and the odd media article, the vast majority of motorists who have been scammed will not know 

Nellymoser

Asda in Dundee Scotland has KFC in their car park built on parking spaces which were reported as “surplus and rarely utilised”.
If that's the case then why is this shopping time limit needed.


No ANPR on site...maybe waiting on keeper liability ito be brought in to Scotland.

Coupon-mad

Nellymoser said:

Asda in Dundee Scotland has KFC in their car park built on parking spaces which were reported as “surplus and rarely utilised”.

If that's the case then why is this shopping time limit needed.

£70 PCN LEVEL

@Nellymoser - Thankyou!

Odd if no ANPR cameras are set up yet...

BUT: this is the evidence we need please.

MORE PHOTOS AND LOCATIONS PLEASE, SHOWING CAR PARKS WITH NO DETERRENT (NO PPC AT ALL) OR LOW DETERRENTS UP TO £70.

£70 works for major retailers in large cities Scotland then.  Even for parking in disabled bays...

So.... option 5 will work and no new signs will be needed except £100 ones at accessible bays and yellow lines/hatched (prohibited) areas.

I think the DLUHC has assumed all signs will need replacing.  That's very wrong.

Less than half of BPA members signs will, by my reckoning, if the DLUHC do the right thing and choose option 5 - and in many cases that will bring in more money for operators as a consequence, because the more obstructive higher rate (at accessible bay areas which need clear signs anyway) will go up to £100 at supermarket car parks where it was £70.

Motorway Services signs won't need changing (mostly BPA firms) as they're already £100.

As for IPC firms: 
No signs will need replacing at residential or staff/business car parks AIUI, because they are already all set at the max £100, being mainly run/ruined by greedy ex-wheelclampers.

No Airport no-stopping signs will need replacing either because they are already £100. 

Humdinger1

Coupon-mad said:

They'll get their chance at Public Consultation stage.  This interim hoop to jump through is just evidence gathering (a necessity to get the IA through) and I've stated on page 6 how MSE posters can assist:


https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6463361/dluhc-private-parking-code-government-launches-call-for-evidence-discussion-thread/p6

Haven't seen ANY photos yet (except mine and @Fruitcake's) even though every town has a Tesco, Sainsburys and Hospital...

I am looking for suitable photo opportunities this week @Coupon-mad.  I live in a small town with supermarket parking on the street and sadly no hospital.  Am looking everywhere I go and will send.  Thanks yet again for everything that you and other regulars have done to get this to this point.  It's understandable that you can't discuss absolutely everything that happens in the committee; you are so trusted.  Humdinger 

Fruitcake

We also need photos of signs that are damaged, ill or non-maintained, hidden by foliage, falling down, sun-bleached, and vandalised etcetera to show that PPCs don't maintain their signs at the moment and therefore there is zero or little cost because PPCs don't bother to maintain them.
All images need date stamps and a location included, and ideally backed up with historic images even if they are from Google Streetview showing the signs haven't been maintained for long periods.