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When is a tube not a tube - packaging

TheGardener
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I'm struggling to find an answer to this - is a cardboard triangular box classed as a tube or a parcel when it comes to Royal Mail (or any other courier for that matter) postage costs? 
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  • tightauldgit
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    Do you mean like a Toblerone box shape? That shape is sold as a postage tube so I imagine it should be classed as a tube provided it fits the dimension requirements. 

    https://www.kitepackaging.co.uk/scp/protection-and-wrapping/triangular-postal-tubes/
  • TheGardener
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    Yes, that's the sort of thing I mean - tubes cost more 'because they have to be hand sorted as they roll on the machines and barcodes on them are hard to scan' according to my local sorting office  - as the triangles solve both those problems I wondered if the postage would be the same as a small parcel but perhaps not then :(
  • molerat
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    edited 30 July 2023 at 10:28AM
    Surely as long as it is no more than 45cm length and 16 cm diameter it is a small parcel.
    A triangle likely does not have to be equilateral as long as the tip to base is no more 35cm.

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  • TheGardener
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    edited 30 July 2023 at 10:31AM
    molerat said:
    Surely as long as it is no more than 45cm length and 16 cm diameter it is a small parcel.
    That's what I'd hoped but tubes are priced differently to standard small parcels, due to the issues mentioned above. Current RM prices are 'from' 2.99 for a small parcel and 'from' 4.49 for a tube so the saving is significant. Triangles seem like a good way to save on the weight of the packaging and use less of it from an enviro point of view but it seems a triangle may still be a tube as far as RM prices are concerned. 
  • km1500
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    a tube is defined as a long holow cylinder

    a cylinder is defined as having a circular cross section, thus your toblerone is not a tube - is will go small or medium parcel.

    RM have a picture of one

    https://personal.help.royalmail.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/89/~/size-and-weight-guide-–-uk-letters-and-parcels
  • molerat
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    Where are you seeing different pricing for tubes ?

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  • Rantband
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    molerat said:
    Where are you seeing different pricing for tubes ?
    https://send.royalmail.com/send/youritem?country=GBR&format&weight=&weightUnit=G
  • molerat
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    Not something that shows on the standard RM sizing / pricing leaflet.  Although there is an open to interpretation wording on the business pricing leaflet. No wonder there is confusion.

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  • prettyandfluffy
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    edited 30 July 2023 at 11:45AM
    Put the item in the tube, then put that in a poly mailing bag and send as a parcel.
  • TheGardener
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    Other than take a triangular one to the post/sorting office  - and even than I suspect it will subject to the opinion/interpretation of whichever member of staff on duty - I'm not sure where else I can go. @prettyandfluffy - Nice idea  ;) but I suspect my recipient might be subject to additional charges or the PO will refuse to accept it? Is this something you have tried?  
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