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Would you consider selling and going back to renting when moving to a new area? Same salary.

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  • CSI_Yorkshire
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    Is there any way you could rent out your own property short-term 
    The way things are now, and even more the way they are going, "short-term" is not guaranteed in any sense when you have tenants.
  • Dustyevsky
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    Adamc said:
    We did it when changing areas, but we were looking for something fairly rare as a  retirement property, so a different set of circumstances, though a similar time in economic terms.
    Personally I wouldn't commit to buy in an area I didn't know well, and certainly not in N Wales, which isn't just like England, but with some weird traditions and road signs! 
    What sort of traditions are there? I wasn't aware and it could be a deal breaker. 
    Sounded like a racial slur to me but hopefully made in jest.

    Perhaps the poster @Dustyevsky can clarify their comments.

    To add (edit)

    I think the term is racial microagression. The Welsh are an ethnic group and slurs such as weird when commenting on an ethnic group's traditions is an example of this.

    Most don't realise they are doing it or cover it as a "joke"

    It's good to speak up against such things so we all check ourselves before stepping in it.
    No, I wasn't jesting. I was pointing out some places in North Wales retain a strong culture and tradition, which those from elsewhere might not understand or share in unless they make a concerted effort to embrace them. This may lead to feelings of alienation among incomers, but it's not the locals' fault.
    Something similar happens in the backwater of the West Country where I live. Here there's no language question, but the way things are done here isn't the same as in the cities, which can lead to a mismatch of expectations. After a few years, some decide they don't fit in and move away.
    By the way, I don't believe the Welsh are a distinct racial group. I'd guess they share much of their DNA with many reading here, not that it matters greatly, to me.

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    edited 23 July 2023 at 5:37PM
    Adamc said:
    We did it when changing areas, but we were looking for something fairly rare as a  retirement property, so a different set of circumstances, though a similar time in economic terms.
    Personally I wouldn't commit to buy in an area I didn't know well, and certainly not in N Wales, which isn't just like England, but with some weird traditions and road signs! 
    What sort of traditions are there? I wasn't aware and it could be a deal breaker. 
    Sounded like a racial slur to me but hopefully made in jest.

    Perhaps the poster @Dustyevsky can clarify their comments.

    To add (edit)

    I think the term is racial microagression. The Welsh are an ethnic group and slurs such as weird when commenting on an ethnic group's traditions is an example of this.

    Most don't realise they are doing it or cover it as a "joke"

    It's good to speak up against such things so we all check ourselves before stepping in it.
    No, I wasn't jesting. I was pointing out some places in North Wales retain a strong culture and tradition, which those from elsewhere might not understand or share in unless they make a concerted effort to embrace them. This may lead to feelings of alienation among incomers, but it's not the locals' fault.
    Something similar happens in the backwater of the West Country where I live. Here there's no language question, but the way things are done here isn't the same as in the cities, which can lead to a mismatch of expectations. After a few years, some decide they don't fit in and move away.
    By the way, I don't believe the Welsh are a distinct racial group. I'd guess they share much of their DNA with many reading here, not that it matters greatly, to me.

    Re living in 'some' areas of N Wales , in the predominantly Welsh speaking areas you may find ( assuming you have children already) that the schools teach through the medium of Welsh, that the pubs are closed on Sundays, and that in some places you 'might' be expected by some people ( small villages more likely) to be able to, or be amenable to learning to,  speak some Welsh, even if it's just at beginner level... but honestly no 'weird' traditions, having lived there many years  I can't think of one. Road signs are in Welsh and English. If only in Welsh then it's clear what it means ( "Araf"/"slow" approaching a school/rail crossing etc.) Oh and you will get bills through the post (if you get them that way) council tax etc in both Welsh and English, train announcements are in Welsh first then English, and you may have to select English on the cash machine 'explanations'. Not a big deal at all. 
  • Dustyevsky
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    To be clear, I was attributing the word 'weird' to those not in tune with the culture and viewing it as outsiders, perhaps when viewing Eisteddfod types of events, for example.
    As for the OP, they'll at least have the advantage of being within another culture in the hospital environment, with plenty of opportunities for building a social life from there. 
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  • To be clear, I was attributing the word 'weird' to those not in tune with the culture and viewing it as outsiders, perhaps when viewing Eisteddfod types of events, for example.
    As for the OP, they'll at least have the advantage of being within another culture in the hospital environment, with plenty of opportunities for building a social life from there. 
    Eisteddfod, singing dancing and poetry, and not all THAT often, hardly something to feel outsiders to? Any more than watching someone play the bagpipes in Scotland /uillean Pipes in Ireland or watching Morris dancers in England.
  • Wyndham
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    Okay.... interesting though this discussion is, personally I want to bring it back to the OPs question!

    It was around 20 years ago, but we sold a house, rented for 6 months, then bought another. We knew the area we were moving to, but just didn't feel we were finding the right house for us. We'd also had our 'old' house on the market for some time, with no movement, then suddenly got a buyer who wanted to move really quickly. So, we rented.

    It was really useful. We moved closer to the new area, so could get our bearings more (we'd lived there before, but a few years before, and, of course, things change). And in the end we found the house that we are still living in.

    One thing to consider - we had some equity, and put it into a savings account. At that point rates were high - but current rates are certainly getting there. We had (and still have) the discipline to say that it wasn't 'our' money and that we couldn't spend it as we needed it for the next house. It was around 80K and we referred to it as 'the elephant' (as in 'the elephant in the room' or the thing you don't talk about!!) But, after saying that, the interest we got on it paid for an anniversary weekend in Paris :D

    You need to find your own way, but I hope this is helpful. I'd certainly do it again in similar circumstances.
  • Personally I would be inclined to rent  while you look around. Going to a largely unknown area it is easy enough perhaps to buy a house that suits, but then find it's not quite in the location you really prefer, or is most convenient for work. 
  • Dustyevsky
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    edited 21 November 2023 at 10:40PM
    Purbeck14 said:
    To be clear, I was attributing the word 'weird' to those not in tune with the culture and viewing it as outsiders, perhaps when viewing Eisteddfod types of events, for example.
    As for the OP, they'll at least have the advantage of being within another culture in the hospital environment, with plenty of opportunities for building a social life from there. 
    Eisteddfod, singing dancing and poetry, and not all THAT often, hardly something to feel outsiders to? Any more than watching someone play the bagpipes in Scotland /uillean Pipes in Ireland or watching Morris dancers in England.
     I agree this is not primarily about Eisteddfods, but despite the effects of mass media, many areas of the UK retain some cultural identity, which people may feel more or less comfortable with. If you don't feel that strongly, fair enough, but I do. It's why I'm living where I am and not in the place I used to be.

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  • Adamc
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    Wyndham said:
    Okay.... interesting though this discussion is, personally I want to bring it back to the OPs question!

    It was around 20 years ago, but we sold a house, rented for 6 months, then bought another. We knew the area we were moving to, but just didn't feel we were finding the right house for us. We'd also had our 'old' house on the market for some time, with no movement, then suddenly got a buyer who wanted to move really quickly. So, we rented.

    It was really useful. We moved closer to the new area, so could get our bearings more (we'd lived there before, but a few years before, and, of course, things change). And in the end we found the house that we are still living in.

    One thing to consider - we had some equity, and put it into a savings account. At that point rates were high - but current rates are certainly getting there. We had (and still have) the discipline to say that it wasn't 'our' money and that we couldn't spend it as we needed it for the next house. It was around 80K and we referred to it as 'the elephant' (as in 'the elephant in the room' or the thing you don't talk about!!) But, after saying that, the interest we got on it paid for an anniversary weekend in Paris :D

    You need to find your own way, but I hope this is helpful. I'd certainly do it again in similar circumstances.
    Cheers - good to hear it worked well. I've not rented since uni so in a weird way it feels like a step back but it's obviously the right choice. I think it's the anxiety surrounding moving somewhere new and a little remote. 
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