MET parking 10 year chase

The_Naked_Ape

MET parking issued me with a parking fine in sept 2016 for parking in my allocated parking space.

A space may I add I have had for 25 years, which I pay for by direct debit without fail to my housing association (landlord.)

The reason my H.O gave MET an estate enforcement contract was to stop un-authorised parking from outsiders in residents bay's not to terrorize residents.

Anyway to cut a long story short MET were supposed to have sent me a renewed parking permit I did call them up requestingr it which they had at the time promised to do so but they never did they withheld it and then, issued me with a fine (bloody cheek!)

I did call thgem when the first notice came in them but when they realised I wouldnt give them cash, they got angry and  eventually started shouting at me so I hung up and ignored them from then on.

 

I was a member of MSE then (2016) but had only just read the pages/forums never fully particpated but decided to ask for advice and was eventually told by a couple of forum diehards that I should just ignore MET as they had no riight, which of courseI did.

Met continued to hound me with letter after letter with BOLD threats (big capital letter warnings in bright red boxes) of take me to court and the threat of possibly sending bailiffs, but I dug my heals in and decided that if they were to take me to court I would go and defend myself on the grounds that they (MET) did not provide me with my permit.

 

They were eventually sacked from our estate I thing in 2018, for (I believe misconduct) but they sold my fine on to another debt recovery agency acting on their behalf with more and more threatening letters to pay up or else, but still i dug my heals in.

 

Then reselling the debt to another DRA then another and then another.

Then this year another parking enforcement contractor did exactly the same by witholding my permit I sent email after email asing them to give me my permit which they ignored. I must have sent at least 5 or 6 emails telling them to sen it all of which they ignored.

I knew I had to act as they would soon issue me with a penalty notice but this time I contacted my housing Association and told themthat MET had done this to me twice in the past resulting in me getting fined and that I was worried.

 

They (the H.O) intervened and threatened the parking enforcers to hand over my permit or else, they did but for a different bay giving my bay to another resident. I contacted the Parking enforcers and again they ignored me so again I contacted the H.O who warned the P.E that if they did not resolve the matter they would be punished.

 

They finally gave me my rightful permit. (but what a very stressful experience.)

 

 

Met however are still pursuing through third party debt chasers, what I would like to know is can I sue them for harassment and causing long term distress?

 

 

Had I been parking where I should not have or not paying for my designated space then I would hold my hands up and pay, but for parking in my bay which I pay for only for MET to withhold my permit and then fine me is to me not only insulting but possibly illegal.

If they do take me to court after all this time and I can -

A.) Prove that I was parked in MY space, 

B.) prove that my space was paid for directly to the H.O 

C.) State that Met never sent me the permit

Will the court side with me?

Thank you

ps one last thing, I have recently found out by invesigating which companies are holding my private data and seen that around 100 parking enforce companies, car parking and debt recovery agincies are holding it, I believe that MET sold them these details?

KeithP

The_Naked_Ape said:

MET parking issued me with a parking fine in sept 2016 for parking in my allocated parking space.

Met however are still pursuing...

If they do take me to court after all this time...

Will the court side with me?

They won't take you to court.
The Limitations Act limits them to six years to pursue through the courts.

And as an aside... no debt or alleged debt has been sold.

Fruitcake

You never received a fine.
Debt collectors are powerless and can safely be ignored.

B789

Have you sent any SARs to any of these agencies that are holding your data? Have you sent an SAR to MET requiring them to tell you exactly who they passed your information on to? You have rights under GDPR to know who holds what information on you and for what purpose.

More importantly, what does your lease/AST say about parking? What it doesn't say is equally important. Was the PPC introduced after you had become a tenant? If so, was your lease/AST altered according to the Landlord and Tenant Act 1987, section 37 in particular?

If there is nothing in your lease about any requirement to display a permit to park in your own demised space, then you don't have to. Your landlord cannot just introduce a third party, unregulated private parking company to override what your lease already allows you to do. Your lease has supremacy of contract.

You can tell the PPC and your landlord that you will display a permit as a courtesy but you are under no obligation to do so. If the PPC ignore that and pursue you, they and your landlord are liable for breaching your GDPR rights. 

You have a right under Article 12 of the UK GDPR that your data is stored and processed accurately. Any data controller allowing their company to issue you with an invoice because it has wrongly recorded that you parked in breach of an alleged contract between you and the landlord/landowner or, the managing agent for that landowner, is processing your personal data unlawfully.

You could inform the data controller of any company that has used your data in this way, giving them 14 days notice of your intention to seek (say) £100 nominal damages and compensation under Article 12 of the UK GDPR and section 168 of the Data Protection Act 2018 for their unlawful processing of your personal data.

Put it in a letter headed "Letter Before County Court Proceedings" and you could say that you will not file your claim with the County Court if they confirm in writing  that all references to the alleged debt have been deleted within those 14 days.

You could issue a claim online for only £35. The claim will be listed for £135 as the successful party gets their court fees back.

Coupon-mad

Can you show us the latest letter with your name & address redacted?

I have never heard of MET operating at a residential site or of a seven year old PCN being chased for them. I'd like to see who is doing this, and the dates and details on the letter.

pustit

It's a miracle they didn't give you a ticket every day that an in~date permit was not on display, up until they were kicked out! The rotten b's

The_Naked_Ape

B789 said:

Have you sent any SARs to any of these agencies that are holding your data? Have you sent an SAR to MET requiring them to tell you exactly who they passed your information on to? You have rights under GDPR to know who holds what information on you and for what purpose.

More importantly, what does your lease/AST say about parking? What it doesn't say is equally important. Was the PPC introduced after you had become a tenant? If so, was your lease/AST altered according to the Landlord and Tenant Act 1987, section 37 in particular?

If there is nothing in your lease about any requirement to display a permit to park in your own demised space, then you don't have to. Your landlord cannot just introduce a third party, unregulated private parking company to override what your lease already allows you to do. Your lease has supremacy of contract.

You can tell the PPC and your landlord that you will display a permit as a courtesy but you are under no obligation to do so. If the PPC ignore that and pursue you, they and your landlord are liable for breaching your GDPR rights. 

You have a right under Article 12 of the UK GDPR that your data is stored and processed accurately. Any data controller allowing their company to issue you with an invoice because it has wrongly recorded that you parked in breach of an alleged contract between you and the landlord/landowner or, the managing agent for that landowner, is processing your personal data unlawfully.

You could inform the data controller of any company that has used your data in this way, giving them 14 days notice of your intention to seek (say) £100 nominal damages and compensation under Article 12 of the UK GDPR and section 168 of the Data Protection Act 2018 for their unlawful processing of your personal data.

Put it in a letter headed "Letter Before County Court Proceedings" and you could say that you will not file your claim with the County Court if they confirm in writing  that all references to the alleged debt have been deleted within those 14 days.

You could issue a claim online for only £35. The claim will be listed for £135 as the successful party gets their court fees back.

I have sent them to as many as 100 different debt agencies/car park management companies/parking enforcers who seem to be holding this, I did it as I was wondering why so many different debt recovery agencies have been hassling me over the yearsd relating to this and was amazed that it was around 157 companies almost all relating to this parking fine.

I have sent requests but they keep coming back saying that I have to give them my personal details and many even demanding copies of driving licence/pasport/V05 certificate official letters etc but I do not want to because it would just ensure they sell it on.

On my original March 1997 lease there is nothing saying (I need to display a permit) only that I need to pay for the space

They may have updated it but I do not know only that we started recieving display badges every year which we used but when MET failed to send mine I couldnt which is how all this nonsence started.

B789

The_Naked_Ape said:

I have sent requests but they keep coming back saying that I have to give them my personal details and many even demanding copies of driving licence/pasport/V05 certificate official letters etc but I do not want to because it would just ensure they sell it on.

Of course you have to give them personal details. How else are they going to verify that you are indeed the person you say you are requesting personal details? Have you made any official complaints to the ICO?

Whilst you don't need to give them photo ID, you can simply provide a copy of your V5C. You could give them a copy of your drivers licence but with the photo redacted. That will really p!ss them off. They have no need for a photo as they have nothing to compare it to.

Just email each and every DPO the following SAR and report any who fail to comply:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/v29cyfyuglg1ban/subject_access_request3.pdf?dl=0

Coupon-mad

Please show us those recent letters.

I've never seen a MET PCN chased beyond six years and we'd be very interested to see this new development.