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Single Justice Procedure-speeding
Hello all,
I really need your help.
On 6th of February the driver was caught on the same road, twice in 10 minutes for exceeding 30 mile per hour, 36mph &37mph, at a difference of 10 minutes. First was issued at 20:12 and the second one at 20:22.
For the second speeding fine was accepted the speed awarness test, and for the first speeding fine the penaly was 3 points and £100.
The driver accepted his fault. The intention was to not go to court for 3 penaly points.
The first speed penaly charge was paid online, an email an been saved with all the details. Also, you have to put your driving licence number also no to be able to pay?
Today, after 6 months was received through post a letter'Single Justice procedure' where it is stated that the charges are:exceed 30 miles per hour on restricted road-automatic camera device.
"What you need to do?
Plead guily online or by responding to this notice, you will usually get 33% reduction on any fine.
On the statement of facts it is writing as below:
A combined notice of intented prosecution/request under section 172 of the road traffic act 1988 was served on the registrated keeper of the involved vechile within 14 days. The defendant has responded to a request under section 172 which was sent on 07/02 and provided and admission of being the driver at the time of the offence.
Retraining Course: Not offered
Conditional offer-paid but licence details not received by HMCTS.
Office in case :xxxx
My question is: Why the driver has to pay again for a fine when was accepted the fault and was paid £188 for the course and the other speed fine?
When was paid the first speeding fine the driver had to enter all the details, driving licence number, etc.
Now, the driver would have to plead guily for what? Also on the form received it is a mitigating circumstances ( what you would like for the court to take into consideration when dealing with your guilty pleas which you belive to make the offence less serious.
Also, it is a statement of means (income and outgoing) which has to be completed also.
May you help please with advices?
Thank you
I really need your help.
On 6th of February the driver was caught on the same road, twice in 10 minutes for exceeding 30 mile per hour, 36mph &37mph, at a difference of 10 minutes. First was issued at 20:12 and the second one at 20:22.
For the second speeding fine was accepted the speed awarness test, and for the first speeding fine the penaly was 3 points and £100.
The driver accepted his fault. The intention was to not go to court for 3 penaly points.
The first speed penaly charge was paid online, an email an been saved with all the details. Also, you have to put your driving licence number also no to be able to pay?
Today, after 6 months was received through post a letter'Single Justice procedure' where it is stated that the charges are:exceed 30 miles per hour on restricted road-automatic camera device.
"What you need to do?
Plead guily online or by responding to this notice, you will usually get 33% reduction on any fine.
On the statement of facts it is writing as below:
A combined notice of intented prosecution/request under section 172 of the road traffic act 1988 was served on the registrated keeper of the involved vechile within 14 days. The defendant has responded to a request under section 172 which was sent on 07/02 and provided and admission of being the driver at the time of the offence.
Retraining Course: Not offered
Conditional offer-paid but licence details not received by HMCTS.
Office in case :xxxx
My question is: Why the driver has to pay again for a fine when was accepted the fault and was paid £188 for the course and the other speed fine?
When was paid the first speeding fine the driver had to enter all the details, driving licence number, etc.
Now, the driver would have to plead guily for what? Also on the form received it is a mitigating circumstances ( what you would like for the court to take into consideration when dealing with your guilty pleas which you belive to make the offence less serious.
Also, it is a statement of means (income and outgoing) which has to be completed also.
May you help please with advices?
Thank you
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First, you will get a refund of your £100 from the police in due course.
You should plead guilty on the SJP form, and explain - briefly - that you paid the fixed penalty but your licence details were not received. You can ask to be fined at the fixed penalty level, and there is a good chance that will happen.
Don't mention the other offence, it's totally irrelevant and can only confuse.1 -
Thank you @Car_54 your answer is much appreciated.Car_54 said:First, you will get a refund of your £100 from the police in due course.
You should plead guilty on the SJP form, and explain - briefly - that you paid the fixed penalty but your licence details were not received. You can ask to be fined at the fixed penalty level, and there is a good chance that will happen.
Don't mention the other offence, it's totally irrelevant and can only confuse.
On the "accepting the conditional offer of a fixed penaly" it is part 1(payment), and was paid online, and on part 2( submission of driving licence details) it is stated that "you should not send your pysical licence through the post, instead you must provide the relevant driving licence details below and send this sheet to: Regional fixed penalty office. "
On the back on part 2 are terms and conditions and it is stated there: there is no need to send your driving licence to the fixed penalty office in order to comply with the terms of this conditional offer. However you will have to supply certain driving licence details within the time limits provided within your fixed penaly notice in order to comply with these terms.
But when was paid the penaly charge of £100 online, there was a section where the driver had to put details about his driving licence number, address, etc.
So that means they did not received those informations?
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Well, if they had received them it wouldn’t be going to court!RBLUE7 said:
Thank you @Car_54 your answer is much appreciated.Car_54 said:First, you will get a refund of your £100 from the police in due course.
You should plead guilty on the SJP form, and explain - briefly - that you paid the fixed penalty but your licence details were not received. You can ask to be fined at the fixed penalty level, and there is a good chance that will happen.
Don't mention the other offence, it's totally irrelevant and can only confuse.
On the "accepting the conditional offer of a fixed penaly" it is part 1(payment), and was paid online, and on part 2( submission of driving licence details) it is stated that "you should not send your pysical licence through the post, instead you must provide the relevant driving licence details below and send this sheet to: Regional fixed penalty office. "
On the back on part 2 are terms and conditions and it is stated there: there is no need to send your driving licence to the fixed penalty office in order to comply with the terms of this conditional offer. However you will have to supply certain driving licence details within the time limits provided within your fixed penaly notice in order to comply with these terms.
But when was paid the penaly charge of £100 online, there was a section where the driver had to put details about his driving licence number, address, etc.
So that means they did not received those informations?
There’s no point now in agonising or arguing about why or whose fault, you just need to deal with the new situation. Good luck!1
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