Trying to update an old laptop - some questions

spaceboy

It acquired a digital license when it connected to the internet, went very smoothly.

Big thanks to bonhomie as the laptop is now miles faster. It used to take about two minutes to load up Roblox and now it's very quick. The in-game experience is smoother too according to my daughter.

cerebus

Bonhomie said:

cerebus said:

Bonhomie said:

cerebus said:

Do a fresh Windows 10 install, you will be amazed at the speed difference

The windows key is in your bios so should install no problems 

That's wrong. Only correct from Windows 8 devices onwards.

Might have not read he had windows 7...

However windows 7 product key will activate windows 10 just type the windows 7 key in when the install asks for it

No need to do anything long winded and faffy 

His device is not activated with the Windows 7 product key in the first place. The point of doing something "long winded and faffy" is for a sure back up method of activation. 
Maybe you can go back to the other thread and explain about upgrading to Windows 11 Pro from Windows 10 Home using the existing licence.

You do know that in the original post the op said that the laptop had windows 10 on it?

Therefore the key is already on the laptop and there is no need to do anything long winded and faffy?

The key is stored in the uefi (check if you like) therefore swapping a ssd and reinstalling windows on a laptop which previously had windows 10 on will auto activate 

FYI I have now done about 6 ssd swaps on laptops with previous windows 10 installs and every one has auto activated without me doing anything long winded and faffy 

chrisw

Bonhomie said:

spaceboy said:

Am I best to do a fresh Windows 10 install or clone the old one? The SSD arrived today.

The laptop originally had Windows 7 so now sure how it works will it just accept 10 with the Windows 7 key?

Fresh install. 
Follow these steps in order to preserve activation and then to apply it after the clean install: https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/23354-clean-install-windows-10-directly-without-having-upgrade-first.html

I read it that the laptop originally had windows 7 but had already upgraded to windows 10. Anyway, it appears the OPis all sorted with it now.

Bonhomie

cerebus said:

Bonhomie said:

cerebus said:

Bonhomie said:

cerebus said:

Do a fresh Windows 10 install, you will be amazed at the speed difference

The windows key is in your bios so should install no problems 

That's wrong. Only correct from Windows 8 devices onwards.

Might have not read he had windows 7...

However windows 7 product key will activate windows 10 just type the windows 7 key in when the install asks for it

No need to do anything long winded and faffy 

His device is not activated with the Windows 7 product key in the first place. The point of doing something "long winded and faffy" is for a sure back up method of activation. 
Maybe you can go back to the other thread and explain about upgrading to Windows 11 Pro from Windows 10 Home using the existing licence.

You do know that in the original post the op said that the laptop had windows 10 on it?

Therefore the key is already on the laptop and there is no need to do anything long winded and faffy?

The key is stored in the uefi (check if you like) therefore swapping a ssd and reinstalling windows on a laptop which previously had windows 10 on will auto activate 

FYI I have now done about 6 ssd swaps on laptops with previous windows 10 installs and every one has auto activated without me doing anything long winded and faffy 

Okay, I'll deal with this briefly. This is a laptop from 2009 supplied with Windows 7. Utilising BIOS, not UEFI. You cannot store anything in the BIOS without Flashing it. It is activated utilising SLP 2.1(System Locked Pre-installation version 2.1. Vista was activated utilising System Locked Pre-installation version 2.0) which entails a marker in the BIOS chip, namely SLIC(System License Internal Code) together with a certificate and a Master key.  
This is differs from the system you describe; OA 3.0 which began with Windows 8.
I used to modify BIOS for this forum, I know.

But it's true that I didn't notice that he already had Windows 10 installed. In which case he needed to do nothing at all other than to select the same edition that was installed beforehand.

P.S. I might have missed your explanation of how you upgraded to Windows 11 Pro from Windows 10 Home for free using the existing licence. Have you done so?

Bonhomie

chrisw said:

Bonhomie said:

spaceboy said:

Am I best to do a fresh Windows 10 install or clone the old one? The SSD arrived today.

The laptop originally had Windows 7 so now sure how it works will it just accept 10 with the Windows 7 key?

Fresh install. 
Follow these steps in order to preserve activation and then to apply it after the clean install: https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/23354-clean-install-windows-10-directly-without-having-upgrade-first.html

I read it that the laptop originally had windows 7 but had already upgraded to windows 10. Anyway, it appears the OPis all sorted with it now.

Yes, I missed that it had already been upgraded to 10. No harm done.

cerebus

Bonhomie said:

cerebus said:

Bonhomie said:

cerebus said:

Bonhomie said:

cerebus said:

Do a fresh Windows 10 install, you will be amazed at the speed difference

The windows key is in your bios so should install no problems 

That's wrong. Only correct from Windows 8 devices onwards.

Might have not read he had windows 7...

However windows 7 product key will activate windows 10 just type the windows 7 key in when the install asks for it

No need to do anything long winded and faffy 

His device is not activated with the Windows 7 product key in the first place. The point of doing something "long winded and faffy" is for a sure back up method of activation. 
Maybe you can go back to the other thread and explain about upgrading to Windows 11 Pro from Windows 10 Home using the existing licence.

You do know that in the original post the op said that the laptop had windows 10 on it?

Therefore the key is already on the laptop and there is no need to do anything long winded and faffy?

The key is stored in the uefi (check if you like) therefore swapping a ssd and reinstalling windows on a laptop which previously had windows 10 on will auto activate 

FYI I have now done about 6 ssd swaps on laptops with previous windows 10 installs and every one has auto activated without me doing anything long winded and faffy 

Okay, I'll deal with this briefly. This is a laptop from 2009 supplied with Windows 7. Utilising BIOS, not UEFI. You cannot store anything in the BIOS without Flashing it. It is activated utilising SLP 2.1(System Locked Pre-installation version 2.1. Vista was activated utilising System Locked Pre-installation version 2.0) which entails a marker in the BIOS chip, namely SLIC(System License Internal Code) together with a certificate and a Master key.  
This is differs from the system you describe; OA 3.0 which began with Windows 8.
I used to modify BIOS for this forum, I know.

But it's true that I didn't notice that he already had Windows 10 installed. In which case he needed to do nothing at all other than to select the same edition that was installed beforehand.

P.S. I might have missed your explanation of how you upgraded to Windows 11 Pro from Windows 10 Home for free using the existing licence. Have you done so?

Your willy waving is making me giggle!

Bonhomie

cerebus said:

Bonhomie said:

cerebus said:

Bonhomie said:

cerebus said:

Bonhomie said:

cerebus said:

Do a fresh Windows 10 install, you will be amazed at the speed difference

The windows key is in your bios so should install no problems 

That's wrong. Only correct from Windows 8 devices onwards.

Might have not read he had windows 7...

However windows 7 product key will activate windows 10 just type the windows 7 key in when the install asks for it

No need to do anything long winded and faffy 

His device is not activated with the Windows 7 product key in the first place. The point of doing something "long winded and faffy" is for a sure back up method of activation. 
Maybe you can go back to the other thread and explain about upgrading to Windows 11 Pro from Windows 10 Home using the existing licence.

You do know that in the original post the op said that the laptop had windows 10 on it?

Therefore the key is already on the laptop and there is no need to do anything long winded and faffy?

The key is stored in the uefi (check if you like) therefore swapping a ssd and reinstalling windows on a laptop which previously had windows 10 on will auto activate 

FYI I have now done about 6 ssd swaps on laptops with previous windows 10 installs and every one has auto activated without me doing anything long winded and faffy 

Okay, I'll deal with this briefly. This is a laptop from 2009 supplied with Windows 7. Utilising BIOS, not UEFI. You cannot store anything in the BIOS without Flashing it. It is activated utilising SLP 2.1(System Locked Pre-installation version 2.1. Vista was activated utilising System Locked Pre-installation version 2.0) which entails a marker in the BIOS chip, namely SLIC(System License Internal Code) together with a certificate and a Master key.  
This is differs from the system you describe; OA 3.0 which began with Windows 8.
I used to modify BIOS for this forum, I know.

But it's true that I didn't notice that he already had Windows 10 installed. In which case he needed to do nothing at all other than to select the same edition that was installed beforehand.

P.S. I might have missed your explanation of how you upgraded to Windows 11 Pro from Windows 10 Home for free using the existing licence. Have you done so?

Your willy waving is making me giggle!

Impressive isn't it? Though genuinely interested in reading your explanation of how you upgraded to Windows 11 Pro from Windows 10 Home for free using the existing licence.

SurferDan

cerebus said:

Far easier just to do a clean install of windows 10 on a new ssd and clean the internals and replace the thermal paste 

But much cheaper to at least try my suggestion before splashing out on new RAM and a SSD.

Bonhomie

SurferDan said:

cerebus said:

Far easier just to do a clean install of windows 10 on a new ssd and clean the internals and replace the thermal paste 

But much cheaper to at least try my suggestion before splashing out on new RAM and a SSD.

No. SSD is ALWAYS going to be better, no matter what you do. Extra RAM not necessary in this case.
Check out the video that I posted earlier.