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  • cmzmse
    cmzmse Posts: 17 Forumite
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    Please can u reiterate the what you think the better defence point is?
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 160,859 Forumite
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    I only suggested one.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • cmzmse
    cmzmse Posts: 17 Forumite
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    How long should my defence be?

  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 160,859 Forumite
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    Which parking firm?
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    Which parking firm?
    The Claimant is PCM(UK) Ltd
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 160,859 Forumite
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    edited 10 July 2023 at 4:00PM
    You seem to have chopped out a chunk of the Template Defence.  You are meant to use it all.

    I can tell because your 19 also has another number '22' and the paragraphs that normally appear above & below it are missing.

    Remove the word '(arguably)'.

    Remove para 17 as PCM aren't in the BPA AOS.

    And why do you have this (below) but in paragraph 3 you've admitted to parking in Pearce Road?  I thought you were going to deny parking at that postcode/road in paragraph 2 and cover it there?

    "15.  The incident in question took place on private land and not on Pearce Road."

    And did you actually park and leave your car unattended?  If not why not deny a parking event occurred at all (para 2) and just call it a brief stop (and explain your business/why you stopped).
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  • 1505grandad
    1505grandad Posts: 4,394 Forumite
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    Also which is the correct number of minutes:-

    "3.       On 21/07/2022, the defendant made one of many trips to Pearce Road and parked his car for 5 minutes."

    Or previous post:-

    "
    The driver of the vehicle parked for 8 minutes by a park to clear his head from mental stress after a 5 hour drive home around 1 year ago."

  • cmzmse
    cmzmse Posts: 17 Forumite
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    edited 11 July 2023 at 12:06PM
    You seem to have chopped out a chunk of the Template Defence.  You are meant to use it all.

    I can tell because your 19 also has another number '22' and the paragraphs that normally appear above & below it are missing.

    Remove the word '(arguably)'.

    Remove para 17 as PCM aren't in the BPA AOS.

    And why do you have this (below) but in paragraph 3 you've admitted to parking in Pearce Road?  I thought you were going to deny parking at that postcode/road in paragraph 2 and cover it there?

    "15.  The incident in question took place on private land and not on Pearce Road."

    And did you actually park and leave your car unattended?  If not why not deny a parking event occurred at all (para 2) and just call it a brief stop (and explain your business/why you stopped).
    with regards to para 3, the road is pearce road but that is an unrestricted road, the land in question is not actually pearce road. i just need to phrase it more clearly. let me fix this up and send another one in.

    does the whole template apply to me?

    i did leave the car btw, what part implies that i didnt?
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 160,859 Forumite
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    edited 11 July 2023 at 10:19PM
    All of the Template Defence applies.

    I think it would be better to talk about the IPC CoP on Grace periods concisely in one paragraph; doesn't need three.


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  • 1505grandad
    1505grandad Posts: 4,394 Forumite
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    "3.       On 21/07/2022, the defendant made one of many trips to Pearce Road but the unrestricted road was full so the driver made use of the abundance of space next to Pearce Road for five minutes."

    Are you using/quoting from IPC CoP version 8 dated 1.7.2021?
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