Travelling into UK with a Romanian passport holder with UK residency - passport expiry query

jimi_man

DullGreyGuy said:

alan_d said

I have printed her immigration status (settled). From what I can see (and the comments above), we should be fine.

Never had material issues with French immigration.

UK is always been much more painful... Mrs had Permanent Residency (the pre-Brexit version of settled status) and was held at immigration for over an hour because the border agent decided he didnt think it was valid even though the reason for that was her split from her ex about 3 years before the PR was even issued. 

BiL was held for 4 hours and was not allowed to access his anti-anxiety medicines from his hold luggage despite not needing a visa to enter because he only had £1,000 on him. When he left he probably still had north of £750 of it left.

I'd say hopefully things have gotten better since Brexit but given the anti-immigration agenda it doesnt seem likely.

Interestingly, someone who doesn’t need a visa to enter, is likely to be quizzed more than someone who does need one. 

CKhalvashi

DullGreyGuy said:

alan_d said

I have printed her immigration status (settled). From what I can see (and the comments above), we should be fine.

Never had material issues with French immigration.

UK is always been much more painful... Mrs had Permanent Residency (the pre-Brexit version of settled status) and was held at immigration for over an hour because the border agent decided he didnt think it was valid even though the reason for that was her split from her ex about 3 years before the PR was even issued. 

BiL was held for 4 hours and was not allowed to access his anti-anxiety medicines from his hold luggage despite not needing a visa to enter because he only had £1,000 on him. When he left he probably still had north of £750 of it left.

I'd say hopefully things have gotten better since Brexit but given the anti-immigration agenda it doesnt seem likely.

I've actually found French immigration to be polite, professional and easy to deal with every time.

The above experience should have been complained about. A quick call to you after speaking to him should have been able to solve that situation without further issue.

Voyager2002

jimi_man said:

DullGreyGuy said:

alan_d said

I have printed her immigration status (settled). From what I can see (and the comments above), we should be fine.

Never had material issues with French immigration.

UK is always been much more painful... Mrs had Permanent Residency (the pre-Brexit version of settled status) and was held at immigration for over an hour because the border agent decided he didnt think it was valid even though the reason for that was her split from her ex about 3 years before the PR was even issued. 

BiL was held for 4 hours and was not allowed to access his anti-anxiety medicines from his hold luggage despite not needing a visa to enter because he only had £1,000 on him. When he left he probably still had north of £750 of it left.

I'd say hopefully things have gotten better since Brexit but given the anti-immigration agenda it doesnt seem likely.

Interestingly, someone who doesn’t need a visa to enter, is likely to be quizzed more than someone who does need one. 

Naturally.

A visa means that the person has already answered lots of questions and provided documentary evidence. In law, immigration officers are only allowed to deny entry to someone with a visa if they have reason to believe that the person´s situation has changed since the visa was issued, or that the visa was obtained fraudulently. Whereas when there is no visa requirement they decide whether or not the person should be admitted.

CKhalvashi

Voyager2002 said:

jimi_man said:

DullGreyGuy said:

alan_d said

I have printed her immigration status (settled). From what I can see (and the comments above), we should be fine.

Never had material issues with French immigration.

UK is always been much more painful... Mrs had Permanent Residency (the pre-Brexit version of settled status) and was held at immigration for over an hour because the border agent decided he didnt think it was valid even though the reason for that was her split from her ex about 3 years before the PR was even issued. 

BiL was held for 4 hours and was not allowed to access his anti-anxiety medicines from his hold luggage despite not needing a visa to enter because he only had £1,000 on him. When he left he probably still had north of £750 of it left.

I'd say hopefully things have gotten better since Brexit but given the anti-immigration agenda it doesnt seem likely.

Interestingly, someone who doesn’t need a visa to enter, is likely to be quizzed more than someone who does need one. 

Naturally.

A visa means that the person has already answered lots of questions and provided documentary evidence. In law, immigration officers are only allowed to deny entry to someone with a visa if they have reason to believe that the person´s situation has changed since the visa was issued, or that the visa was obtained fraudulently. Whereas when there is no visa requirement they decide whether or not the person should be admitted.

That may be the case in the UK but definitely wasn't at Vienna when I ended up translating from Russian to English for the border officer for the man 2 people ahead. This was In December.

The holder was a visa national for Schengen although honestly his story was not very convincing for anyone.

A visa does not guarantee entry, the decision is made by the border officer.

DullGreyGuy

CKhalvashi said:

DullGreyGuy said:

alan_d said

I have printed her immigration status (settled). From what I can see (and the comments above), we should be fine.

Never had material issues with French immigration.

UK is always been much more painful... Mrs had Permanent Residency (the pre-Brexit version of settled status) and was held at immigration for over an hour because the border agent decided he didnt think it was valid even though the reason for that was her split from her ex about 3 years before the PR was even issued. 

BiL was held for 4 hours and was not allowed to access his anti-anxiety medicines from his hold luggage despite not needing a visa to enter because he only had £1,000 on him. When he left he probably still had north of £750 of it left.

I'd say hopefully things have gotten better since Brexit but given the anti-immigration agenda it doesnt seem likely.

I've actually found French immigration to be polite, professional and easy to deal with every time.

The above experience should have been complained about. A quick call to you after speaking to him should have been able to solve that situation without further issue.

Should of but they didn't call us... it was only resolved after we found an officer in the cafe (at the end of her shift) who was kind enough to go back in and speak to her colleague and then explained what their concerns were, we pointed out we were funding his trip and yes we could show he could afford it.  Let him out 20 minutes later

With the Mrs one though... appears the officer lied on the paperwork as did complain on that case and their response was that the officer logged it as a straight through process.

CKhalvashi

DullGreyGuy said:

CKhalvashi said:

DullGreyGuy said:

alan_d said

I have printed her immigration status (settled). From what I can see (and the comments above), we should be fine.

Never had material issues with French immigration.

UK is always been much more painful... Mrs had Permanent Residency (the pre-Brexit version of settled status) and was held at immigration for over an hour because the border agent decided he didnt think it was valid even though the reason for that was her split from her ex about 3 years before the PR was even issued. 

BiL was held for 4 hours and was not allowed to access his anti-anxiety medicines from his hold luggage despite not needing a visa to enter because he only had £1,000 on him. When he left he probably still had north of £750 of it left.

I'd say hopefully things have gotten better since Brexit but given the anti-immigration agenda it doesnt seem likely.

I've actually found French immigration to be polite, professional and easy to deal with every time.

The above experience should have been complained about. A quick call to you after speaking to him should have been able to solve that situation without further issue.

Should of but they didn't call us... it was only resolved after we found an officer in the cafe (at the end of her shift) who was kind enough to go back in and speak to her colleague and then explained what their concerns were, we pointed out we were funding his trip and yes we could show he could afford it.  Let him out 20 minutes later

With the Mrs one though... appears the officer lied on the paperwork as did complain on that case and their response was that the officer logged it as a straight through process.

You should have complained at this one IMO.

That's appalling assuming they were given your phone number. I've been able to verify someone at the UK/EU border (as applicable, normally on PPE permit for UK, either visa required or visa free (requiring a stamp)) on several occasions (different people but for business purposes) and this has been one fo the first calls made. Anything else is unprofessional on behalf of UKBF and shouldn't meet the service standards.

jimi_man

CKhalvashi said:

Voyager2002 said:

jimi_man said:

DullGreyGuy said:

alan_d said

I have printed her immigration status (settled). From what I can see (and the comments above), we should be fine.

Never had material issues with French immigration.

UK is always been much more painful... Mrs had Permanent Residency (the pre-Brexit version of settled status) and was held at immigration for over an hour because the border agent decided he didnt think it was valid even though the reason for that was her split from her ex about 3 years before the PR was even issued. 

BiL was held for 4 hours and was not allowed to access his anti-anxiety medicines from his hold luggage despite not needing a visa to enter because he only had £1,000 on him. When he left he probably still had north of £750 of it left.

I'd say hopefully things have gotten better since Brexit but given the anti-immigration agenda it doesnt seem likely.

Interestingly, someone who doesn’t need a visa to enter, is likely to be quizzed more than someone who does need one. 

Naturally.

A visa means that the person has already answered lots of questions and provided documentary evidence. In law, immigration officers are only allowed to deny entry to someone with a visa if they have reason to believe that the person´s situation has changed since the visa was issued, or that the visa was obtained fraudulently. Whereas when there is no visa requirement they decide whether or not the person should be admitted.

That may be the case in the UK but definitely wasn't at Vienna when I ended up translating from Russian to English for the border officer for the man 2 people ahead. This was In December.

The holder was a visa national for Schengen although honestly his story was not very convincing for anyone.

A visa does not guarantee entry, the decision is made by the border officer.

In the U.K. people with visas are still questioned very thoroughly, depending on where they have flown from. 

Voyager2002

CKhalvashi said:

Voyager2002 said:

jimi_man said:

DullGreyGuy said:

alan_d said

I have printed her immigration status (settled). From what I can see (and the comments above), we should be fine.

Never had material issues with French immigration.

UK is always been much more painful... Mrs had Permanent Residency (the pre-Brexit version of settled status) and was held at immigration for over an hour because the border agent decided he didnt think it was valid even though the reason for that was her split from her ex about 3 years before the PR was even issued. 

BiL was held for 4 hours and was not allowed to access his anti-anxiety medicines from his hold luggage despite not needing a visa to enter because he only had £1,000 on him. When he left he probably still had north of £750 of it left.

I'd say hopefully things have gotten better since Brexit but given the anti-immigration agenda it doesnt seem likely.

Interestingly, someone who doesn’t need a visa to enter, is likely to be quizzed more than someone who does need one. 

Naturally.

A visa means that the person has already answered lots of questions and provided documentary evidence. In law, immigration officers are only allowed to deny entry to someone with a visa if they have reason to believe that the person´s situation has changed since the visa was issued, or that the visa was obtained fraudulently. Whereas when there is no visa requirement they decide whether or not the person should be admitted.

That may be the case in the UK but definitely wasn't at Vienna when I ended up translating from Russian to English for the border officer for the man 2 people ahead. This was In December.

The holder was a visa national for Schengen although honestly his story was not very convincing for anyone.

A visa does not guarantee entry, the decision is made by the border officer.

A visa for the UK means that the embassy/consulate has already granted entry clearance. Whereas a visa for the USA simply means that the traveller is allowed to apply to enter the USA, with the actual decision being made by the immigration officer at the US port of entry.