Rolls Royce Bonds - scam or not - you decide :)

Anderpool

Dear Forumites, 

Now, I have no plans of investing at all in this which arrived via an unsolicited email, but out of interest I had a quick look

rolls .royce .group .co .uk

It purports to be selling a 5.75% fixed rate bond, and to be honest, it all seems perfectly legitimate and not anything significantly above current rates for corporate bonds (other than the rather strange phrase "Only enquiries can be eligible" at the top of the page). However, Rolls Royce uses the domain rolls-royce.com which is different than the bond offering, and when I checked the information on that domain it turns out it was only registered on 9th June 2023, a couple of days before I received the email offer. which is very suspicious.

So, wise people, scam or legit - I vote scam, but pretty sophisticated website, it even went to the trouble of getting a https certificate.

masonic

Anderpool said:

but pretty sophisticated website, it even went to the trouble of getting a https certificate.

They're using a Let's Encrypt certificate, so not a penny spent and no verification of who they are. Site content and unsolicited approach clearly marks it out as an impersonation scam before even looking into the technical details.

ColdIron

Obvious scam, send the email to the big bit bucket in the sky and move on

wmb194

Without even looking you can be sure it's a scam and 5.75% will have been chosen as it'll match the rate of an existing Rolls-Royce bond listed on the LSE.

I'd ask how I came to be on this e-mail's distribution list.

jaypers

Scam all day long

Sg28

Anderpool said:

Dear Forumites, 

Now, I have no plans of investing at all in this which arrived via an unsolicited email, but out of interest I had a quick look

rolls .royce .group .co .uk

It purports to be selling a 5.75% fixed rate bond, and to be honest, it all seems perfectly legitimate and not anything significantly above current rates for corporate bonds (other than the rather strange phrase "Only enquiries can be eligible" at the top of the page). However, Rolls Royce uses the domain rolls-royce.com which is different than the bond offering, and when I checked the information on that domain it turns out it was only registered on 9th June 2023, a couple of days before I received the email offer. which is very suspicious.

So, wise people, scam or legit - I vote scam, but pretty sophisticated website, it even went to the trouble of getting a https certificate.

My rule is, if its an unsolicited communication is a scam. 

dunstonh

So, wise people, scam or legit - I vote scam, but pretty sophisticated website, it even went to the trouble of getting a https certificate.

A very obvious scam.    Multiple indicators of that (fake spoof domain, rolls royce not holding any FCA permissions on deposits, unsolicited email, website grammar and us of language is poor with no compliance messages and does not match corporate identity).

Eyeful

Shouts SCAM!

As does the following:-
https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/rolls .royce .group .co .uk

masonic

Eyeful said:

Shouts SCAM!

As does the following:-
https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/rolls .royce .group .co .uk

You have to de-obfuscate the domain name: https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/rolls-royce-group.co.uk

I have no idea why it gets as high a rating as it does!

Malthusian

masonic said:

You have to de-obfuscate the domain name: https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/rolls-royce-group.co.uk

I have no idea why it gets as high a rating as it does!

Helpfully it tells you:

Positive highlights
We found a valid SSL certificate
DNSFilter labels this site as safe
Checked for malware and phishing by Flashstart

These websites are pretty useless to be honest (and many of them - though not scamadviser.com as far as I can tell - exist to promote their own scams).

mooneysaver

Agree with the posters above. Impossible to tell if this is a scam or not without a lot more details.