Impossible to mortgage this property?

locostashton
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edited 15 June 2023 at 12:40PM in Mortgages & endowments
Hi All,
im trying to get a mortgage on a house that will likely need rewiring, new heating/plumbing system, brickwork in window areas repaired (failed or no lintels). There’s a kitchen but I can’t test the water as it’s turned off. The valuer has said it’s worth what I’m willing to pay for it, but it’s against the mortgage lenders policy to lend against a property that isn’t habitable. Is there a lender or specific mortgage product that might lend in this situation? I’m fully aware of the condition of the property and would really like to find a way to buy it. Thanks 

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  • hazyjo
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    Can you put up a link? Is it actually inhabitable, or does it just need doing up?
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  • It’s been taken down at the moment. I’m happy to have the electrical/plumbing work done before moving in, the brickwork can be done without effecting the inside, I’m told. So, yes, I believe it’s habitable.
  • CSI_Yorkshire
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    So, yes, I believe it’s habitable.
    Habitable means a specific thing, not just "are you willing to live in it".  Check the criteria the lender uses to define habitable.
  • user1977
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    Why specifically does the surveyor consider it not mortgageable? 
  • propertyrental
    propertyrental Posts: 3,391 Forumite
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    Speak to an independent mortgage broker. He'll either recommend a lender with a more flexible definition of 'habitable', or recommend a development mortgage.

    https://www.fundingoptions.com/knowledge/property-development-finance/
  • The valuation says the house is worth the amount I want to borrow, it’s the building society policy not to lend. The valuer has said it potentially needs rewiring/plumbing and potential structural issues but hasn’t mentioned getting a structural survey or that the house is only worth x amount of money
  • eddddy
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    The valuation says the house is worth the amount I want to borrow, it’s the building society policy not to lend. The valuer has said it potentially needs rewiring/plumbing and potential structural issues but hasn’t mentioned getting a structural survey or that the house is only worth x amount of money

    You should ask what specific issues are making that specific house "uninhabitable".

    Normally "uninhabitable" means - no working kitchen, or no working bathroom, or maybe not watertight and windproof.

    Needing rewiring / plumbing isn't usually an issue - unless the plumbing is so bad that the kitchen or bathroom can't function.


    However, you mention "potential structural issues". They wouldn't necessarily make the house "uninhabitable" - but they could definitely make a house unmortgageable. 


  • user1977
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    eddddy said:
    The valuation says the house is worth the amount I want to borrow, it’s the building society policy not to lend. The valuer has said it potentially needs rewiring/plumbing and potential structural issues but hasn’t mentioned getting a structural survey or that the house is only worth x amount of money
    However, you mention "potential structural issues". They wouldn't necessarily make the house "uninhabitable" - but they could definitely make a house unmortgageable. 

    Or more likely "only mortgageable after you get a structural engineer to declare my concerns are misplaced".
  • K_S
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    Hi All,
    im trying to get a mortgage on a house that will likely need rewiring, new heating/plumbing system, brickwork in window areas repaired (failed or no lintels). There’s a kitchen but I can’t test the water as it’s turned off. The valuer has said it’s worth what I’m willing to pay for it, but it’s against the mortgage lenders policy to lend against a property that isn’t habitable. Is there a lender or specific mortgage product that might lend in this situation? I’m fully aware of the condition of the property and would really like to find a way to buy it. Thanks 
    @locostashton

    Mainstream standard mortgage - You could get a good picture of how a mainstream lender evaluates whether a property is 'habitable' or not by going through this Nationwide surveyor manual https://nonstandardhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/wpforo/default_attachments/1541599588-361Valuers-Nationwide-Whole-Manual-11-March-2016.pdf  Most mainstream lenders will have a similar approach. As you can see from the guidance, there is some amount of subjectivity to it.

    If the above is a no-go, then you'll need to look at something like buying the property using a bridging loan, repairing/refurbishing it and then re-mortgaging it to a mainstream lender. This thread might be useful as it's discussing a similar issue
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6452176/estimating-providing-refurbishment-costs

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