We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.
This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.
The MSE Forum Team would like to wish you all a Merry Christmas. However, we know this time of year can be difficult for some. If you're struggling during the festive period, here's a list of organisations that might be able to help
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
Has MSE helped you to save or reclaim money this year? Share your 2025 MoneySaving success stories!
Neon / Mains Tester Screwdriver – Good or bad?
Comments
-
I'd like to add that isolating a circuit, or even turning off the main switch is no guarantee of safety.
I discovered a socket in my parents house that was connected to a lighting circuit.
At my last house I found that one of the sockets on a party wall was connected to the neighbour's ring.
Always. Test. It takes seconds and the potential consequences of not doing so are someone's life.2 -
Indeed. It is just possible that some little s**t has been messing with the isolator switch and it no longer works. Came across that on an industrial machine tool. Even although the isolation switch said "OFF", it was still live (3-phase to boot). A 2" steel clue bat to the aforementioned little s**ts head educated him on the errors of his ways.Grenage said: I'd like to add that isolating a circuit, or even turning off the main switch is no guarantee of safety.
It is also possible that the contacts inside an isolator switch might be welded together. Unlikely, but if it had been used to switch high currents, a possibility.
Any language construct that forces such insanity in this case should be abandoned without regrets. –
Erik Aronesty, 2014
Treasure the moments that you have. Savour them for as long as you can for they will never come back again.1 -
Grenage said:
At my last house I found that one of the sockets on a party wall was connected to the neighbour's ring.^This.For DIYers learning from how-to-do-it videos on youtube it is easy to fall into the trap of imagining there is one consumer unit with a main switch which will isolate everything and all that needs to be done is to turn off the big red switch.When you've seen a lot of other people's work close up you eventually learn there is no limit to the daft things that people are willing to do without appreciating the significance and/or consequences of what they've done. (FreeBear's isolation switch is another good example)These threads often go down the route of criticising the professionals who chip in with how it should be done correctly, or there will be digs about pedantry.But electricity can kill, and at normal mains voltage we have no inbuilt sense which allows us to detect it. Therefore the use of the right tools and techniques is vital to keep people safe.1
Confirm your email address to Create Threads and Reply
Categories
- All Categories
- 352.9K Banking & Borrowing
- 253.9K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
- 454.7K Spending & Discounts
- 246K Work, Benefits & Business
- 602.1K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
- 177.8K Life & Family
- 259.9K Travel & Transport
- 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
- 16K Discuss & Feedback
- 37.7K Read-Only Boards
