Value winter holiday.

Nebulous2

TELLIT01 said:

A very quick look on TUI shows AI prices for 11 nights in November to be broadly similar to those quoted by the OP.  Self catering for the same period is showing between £1300 and £2k for the same period!

Thanks - its not just me then! 

I can get a well-rated hotel, B & B, from the hotel company website, for £1200 and flights for £640. Budgeting £100 a day for food and drink for two would bring me to the price of the AI. I'd still need airport transfers.

I was hoping to save a bit - not simply match it. 

hugheskevi

You could consider Gambia maybe? Looks to be around £2,500 for 2 people 11 nights all-inclusive in November. Although flying out of Scotland could be an issue. As well as the beaches and nice weather, the area is amazing for bird life and it is not expensive to go out with expert ornithologists if you have any interest in that.

tightauldgit

Nebulous2 said:

tightauldgit said:

If you're looking for value for money then going for an AI package probably isn't the way to do it. Even 7 nights for £1300 seems stupidly expensive to me but it all depends on exactly what you want. November isn't peak time so there will be any number of low cost flights available for 11 nights give or take to any number of Euro locations for about £50 each way and hotels for 30/40/50 quid a night. 

I suspect all the tour operators are going to be hiking their brochure prices as high as they can to try to capture as much money as they can these days, but whether people are silly enough to pay those prices remains to be seen - I would expect a lot of discounts are going to be available if that's indicative of the kind of price hikes that are happening. 

£1300 for both of us, flying from a regional airport in Scotland, in a decent hotel. The advantage of Tenerife, over any number of Euro locations is that the weather is likely to be better. 

Anyway I wasn't asking about my choice of holiday, more the rate of holiday inflation. I'm much exercised by increasing prices and I'm cutting back elsewhere because of it. It may well be that I need to leave Tenerife to those who are willing to spend £3k for 11 nights.  

It wasn't a criticism of your choice of holiday (each to their own preferences in my book) just pointing out that there's a bit of a disconnect between looking for value for money and a package AI holiday in a specific resort. A lot of tour operators are looking to recover their COVID losses so I imagine inflated prices will be the order of the day and they will see if people are willing to pay it or not. 

Whether £3k or £2k or whatever is worth it for you is completely up to you and your own preferences. For some people I imagine £3k for 11 nights is perfectly fine in terms of value. For me it wouldn't be. But then I'm not really the kind of person that AI resorts in Tenerife are aimed at. 

As I said though if that's the kind of price inflation that is happening then I'd probably hold off to nearer the time and see what kind of offers are on - it's a non-peak period so it's unlikely places are going to fill up. I know for example I got some really good last minute deals on hotels in the Algarve in November but that was 2021 so things might have changed. There always seem to be deals kicking around for Tunisia and Egypt as well if you just want a beach holiday with warm weather in winter.

For me November would be an ideal time to go further afield and do South East Asia if you can find some reasonable flight options (which is the key as prices have soared) because costs once you're in country are pretty minimal.  

Nebulous2

tightauldgit said:

Nebulous2 said:

tightauldgit said:

If you're looking for value for money then going for an AI package probably isn't the way to do it. Even 7 nights for £1300 seems stupidly expensive to me but it all depends on exactly what you want. November isn't peak time so there will be any number of low cost flights available for 11 nights give or take to any number of Euro locations for about £50 each way and hotels for 30/40/50 quid a night. 

I suspect all the tour operators are going to be hiking their brochure prices as high as they can to try to capture as much money as they can these days, but whether people are silly enough to pay those prices remains to be seen - I would expect a lot of discounts are going to be available if that's indicative of the kind of price hikes that are happening. 

£1300 for both of us, flying from a regional airport in Scotland, in a decent hotel. The advantage of Tenerife, over any number of Euro locations is that the weather is likely to be better. 

Anyway I wasn't asking about my choice of holiday, more the rate of holiday inflation. I'm much exercised by increasing prices and I'm cutting back elsewhere because of it. It may well be that I need to leave Tenerife to those who are willing to spend £3k for 11 nights.  

It wasn't a criticism of your choice of holiday (each to their own preferences in my book) just pointing out that there's a bit of a disconnect between looking for value for money and a package AI holiday in a specific resort. A lot of tour operators are looking to recover their COVID losses so I imagine inflated prices will be the order of the day and they will see if people are willing to pay it or not. 

Whether £3k or £2k or whatever is worth it for you is completely up to you and your own preferences. For some people I imagine £3k for 11 nights is perfectly fine in terms of value. For me it wouldn't be. But then I'm not really the kind of person that AI resorts in Tenerife are aimed at. 

As I said though if that's the kind of price inflation that is happening then I'd probably hold off to nearer the time and see what kind of offers are on - it's a non-peak period so it's unlikely places are going to fill up. I know for example I got some really good last minute deals on hotels in the Algarve in November but that was 2021 so things might have changed. There always seem to be deals kicking around for Tunisia and Egypt as well if you just want a beach holiday with warm weather in winter.

For me November would be an ideal time to go further afield and do South East Asia if you can find some reasonable flight options (which is the key as prices have soared) because costs once you're in country are pretty minimal.  

Apologies - I may have come across a bit defensive, but I should welcome all comments. 

It would never have been my choice either, but I may have lost a bit of confidence with the debacle I had during Covid, and having tried AI we were surprised at how much we liked it. 

My parents went to Tenerife regularly, and I never fancied it either, my last trip to the Canaries prior to this was Gran Canaria, air bnb, staying in a flat in the old town in the North away from all the holiday resorts, in the midst of all the restaurants and tapas bars. We really enjoyed that, but I'm not sure I would try it now. 

Doshwaster

Nebulous2 said:

tightauldgit said:

Nebulous2 said:

tightauldgit said:

If you're looking for value for money then going for an AI package probably isn't the way to do it. Even 7 nights for £1300 seems stupidly expensive to me but it all depends on exactly what you want. November isn't peak time so there will be any number of low cost flights available for 11 nights give or take to any number of Euro locations for about £50 each way and hotels for 30/40/50 quid a night. 

I suspect all the tour operators are going to be hiking their brochure prices as high as they can to try to capture as much money as they can these days, but whether people are silly enough to pay those prices remains to be seen - I would expect a lot of discounts are going to be available if that's indicative of the kind of price hikes that are happening. 

£1300 for both of us, flying from a regional airport in Scotland, in a decent hotel. The advantage of Tenerife, over any number of Euro locations is that the weather is likely to be better. 

Anyway I wasn't asking about my choice of holiday, more the rate of holiday inflation. I'm much exercised by increasing prices and I'm cutting back elsewhere because of it. It may well be that I need to leave Tenerife to those who are willing to spend £3k for 11 nights.  

It wasn't a criticism of your choice of holiday (each to their own preferences in my book) just pointing out that there's a bit of a disconnect between looking for value for money and a package AI holiday in a specific resort. A lot of tour operators are looking to recover their COVID losses so I imagine inflated prices will be the order of the day and they will see if people are willing to pay it or not. 

Whether £3k or £2k or whatever is worth it for you is completely up to you and your own preferences. For some people I imagine £3k for 11 nights is perfectly fine in terms of value. For me it wouldn't be. But then I'm not really the kind of person that AI resorts in Tenerife are aimed at. 

As I said though if that's the kind of price inflation that is happening then I'd probably hold off to nearer the time and see what kind of offers are on - it's a non-peak period so it's unlikely places are going to fill up. I know for example I got some really good last minute deals on hotels in the Algarve in November but that was 2021 so things might have changed. There always seem to be deals kicking around for Tunisia and Egypt as well if you just want a beach holiday with warm weather in winter.

For me November would be an ideal time to go further afield and do South East Asia if you can find some reasonable flight options (which is the key as prices have soared) because costs once you're in country are pretty minimal.  

Apologies - I may have come across a bit defensive, but I should welcome all comments. 

It would never have been my choice either, but I may have lost a bit of confidence with the debacle I had during Covid, and having tried AI we were surprised at how much we liked it. 

My parents went to Tenerife regularly, and I never fancied it either, my last trip to the Canaries prior to this was Gran Canaria, air bnb, staying in a flat in the old town in the North away from all the holiday resorts, in the midst of all the restaurants and tapas bars. We really enjoyed that, but I'm not sure I would try it now. 

I love Tenerife and it's my favourite of the Canaries but I would never go AI as half the fun for me is checking out local bars and restaurants.  I have done in Turkey when it is often not much more expensive than B&B but even then I ate out most of the time as cheap AI is cheap for a reason.

The old town of Las Palmas on Gran Canaria is indeed a fun place well away from the beaches of the south coast. Very much a proper Spanish city with very few British tourists.

CKhalvashi

Doshwaster said:

Nebulous2 said:

tightauldgit said:

Nebulous2 said:

tightauldgit said:

If you're looking for value for money then going for an AI package probably isn't the way to do it. Even 7 nights for £1300 seems stupidly expensive to me but it all depends on exactly what you want. November isn't peak time so there will be any number of low cost flights available for 11 nights give or take to any number of Euro locations for about £50 each way and hotels for 30/40/50 quid a night. 

I suspect all the tour operators are going to be hiking their brochure prices as high as they can to try to capture as much money as they can these days, but whether people are silly enough to pay those prices remains to be seen - I would expect a lot of discounts are going to be available if that's indicative of the kind of price hikes that are happening. 

£1300 for both of us, flying from a regional airport in Scotland, in a decent hotel. The advantage of Tenerife, over any number of Euro locations is that the weather is likely to be better. 

Anyway I wasn't asking about my choice of holiday, more the rate of holiday inflation. I'm much exercised by increasing prices and I'm cutting back elsewhere because of it. It may well be that I need to leave Tenerife to those who are willing to spend £3k for 11 nights.  

It wasn't a criticism of your choice of holiday (each to their own preferences in my book) just pointing out that there's a bit of a disconnect between looking for value for money and a package AI holiday in a specific resort. A lot of tour operators are looking to recover their COVID losses so I imagine inflated prices will be the order of the day and they will see if people are willing to pay it or not. 

Whether £3k or £2k or whatever is worth it for you is completely up to you and your own preferences. For some people I imagine £3k for 11 nights is perfectly fine in terms of value. For me it wouldn't be. But then I'm not really the kind of person that AI resorts in Tenerife are aimed at. 

As I said though if that's the kind of price inflation that is happening then I'd probably hold off to nearer the time and see what kind of offers are on - it's a non-peak period so it's unlikely places are going to fill up. I know for example I got some really good last minute deals on hotels in the Algarve in November but that was 2021 so things might have changed. There always seem to be deals kicking around for Tunisia and Egypt as well if you just want a beach holiday with warm weather in winter.

For me November would be an ideal time to go further afield and do South East Asia if you can find some reasonable flight options (which is the key as prices have soared) because costs once you're in country are pretty minimal.  

Apologies - I may have come across a bit defensive, but I should welcome all comments. 

It would never have been my choice either, but I may have lost a bit of confidence with the debacle I had during Covid, and having tried AI we were surprised at how much we liked it. 

My parents went to Tenerife regularly, and I never fancied it either, my last trip to the Canaries prior to this was Gran Canaria, air bnb, staying in a flat in the old town in the North away from all the holiday resorts, in the midst of all the restaurants and tapas bars. We really enjoyed that, but I'm not sure I would try it now. 

I love Tenerife and it's my favourite of the Canaries but I would never go AI as half the fun for me is checking out local bars and restaurants.  I have done in Turkey when it is often not much more expensive than B&B but even then I ate out most of the time as cheap AI is cheap for a reason.

The old town of Las Palmas on Gran Canaria is indeed a fun place well away from the beaches of the south coast. Very much a proper Spanish city with very few British tourists.

Agreed on the AI, we tend to spend a fair amount of time in bars/restaurants close to universities, which are generally in historic areas.

I haven't been to Tenerife (or Canarias at all) for about 20 years so can't offer specific advice on where to go though.

Just thinking for a later holiday in the year from where we've been before, I worked in Malta some years ago in November and it was still 20+ degrees in the day.

Egypt would be something else to maybe consider, although there are limited flights from parts of the UK.

Nebulous2

CKhalvashi said:

Doshwaster said:

Nebulous2 said:

tightauldgit said:

Nebulous2 said:

tightauldgit said:

If you're looking for value for money then going for an AI package probably isn't the way to do it. Even 7 nights for £1300 seems stupidly expensive to me but it all depends on exactly what you want. November isn't peak time so there will be any number of low cost flights available for 11 nights give or take to any number of Euro locations for about £50 each way and hotels for 30/40/50 quid a night. 

I suspect all the tour operators are going to be hiking their brochure prices as high as they can to try to capture as much money as they can these days, but whether people are silly enough to pay those prices remains to be seen - I would expect a lot of discounts are going to be available if that's indicative of the kind of price hikes that are happening. 

£1300 for both of us, flying from a regional airport in Scotland, in a decent hotel. The advantage of Tenerife, over any number of Euro locations is that the weather is likely to be better. 

Anyway I wasn't asking about my choice of holiday, more the rate of holiday inflation. I'm much exercised by increasing prices and I'm cutting back elsewhere because of it. It may well be that I need to leave Tenerife to those who are willing to spend £3k for 11 nights.  

It wasn't a criticism of your choice of holiday (each to their own preferences in my book) just pointing out that there's a bit of a disconnect between looking for value for money and a package AI holiday in a specific resort. A lot of tour operators are looking to recover their COVID losses so I imagine inflated prices will be the order of the day and they will see if people are willing to pay it or not. 

Whether £3k or £2k or whatever is worth it for you is completely up to you and your own preferences. For some people I imagine £3k for 11 nights is perfectly fine in terms of value. For me it wouldn't be. But then I'm not really the kind of person that AI resorts in Tenerife are aimed at. 

As I said though if that's the kind of price inflation that is happening then I'd probably hold off to nearer the time and see what kind of offers are on - it's a non-peak period so it's unlikely places are going to fill up. I know for example I got some really good last minute deals on hotels in the Algarve in November but that was 2021 so things might have changed. There always seem to be deals kicking around for Tunisia and Egypt as well if you just want a beach holiday with warm weather in winter.

For me November would be an ideal time to go further afield and do South East Asia if you can find some reasonable flight options (which is the key as prices have soared) because costs once you're in country are pretty minimal.  

Apologies - I may have come across a bit defensive, but I should welcome all comments. 

It would never have been my choice either, but I may have lost a bit of confidence with the debacle I had during Covid, and having tried AI we were surprised at how much we liked it. 

My parents went to Tenerife regularly, and I never fancied it either, my last trip to the Canaries prior to this was Gran Canaria, air bnb, staying in a flat in the old town in the North away from all the holiday resorts, in the midst of all the restaurants and tapas bars. We really enjoyed that, but I'm not sure I would try it now. 

I love Tenerife and it's my favourite of the Canaries but I would never go AI as half the fun for me is checking out local bars and restaurants.  I have done in Turkey when it is often not much more expensive than B&B but even then I ate out most of the time as cheap AI is cheap for a reason.

The old town of Las Palmas on Gran Canaria is indeed a fun place well away from the beaches of the south coast. Very much a proper Spanish city with very few British tourists.

Agreed on the AI, we tend to spend a fair amount of time in bars/restaurants close to universities, which are generally in historic areas.

I haven't been to Tenerife (or Canarias at all) for about 20 years so can't offer specific advice on where to go though.

Just thinking for a later holiday in the year from where we've been before, I worked in Malta some years ago in November and it was still 20+ degrees in the day.

Egypt would be something else to maybe consider, although there are limited flights from parts of the UK.

Thanks - that's a great suggestion. I've never been to Malta. Now booked.

£470 for flights, with a change at Gatwick. £39 a night for an Airbnb. 

CKhalvashi

Nebulous2 said:

CKhalvashi said:

Doshwaster said:

Nebulous2 said:

tightauldgit said:

Nebulous2 said:

tightauldgit said:

If you're looking for value for money then going for an AI package probably isn't the way to do it. Even 7 nights for £1300 seems stupidly expensive to me but it all depends on exactly what you want. November isn't peak time so there will be any number of low cost flights available for 11 nights give or take to any number of Euro locations for about £50 each way and hotels for 30/40/50 quid a night. 

I suspect all the tour operators are going to be hiking their brochure prices as high as they can to try to capture as much money as they can these days, but whether people are silly enough to pay those prices remains to be seen - I would expect a lot of discounts are going to be available if that's indicative of the kind of price hikes that are happening. 

£1300 for both of us, flying from a regional airport in Scotland, in a decent hotel. The advantage of Tenerife, over any number of Euro locations is that the weather is likely to be better. 

Anyway I wasn't asking about my choice of holiday, more the rate of holiday inflation. I'm much exercised by increasing prices and I'm cutting back elsewhere because of it. It may well be that I need to leave Tenerife to those who are willing to spend £3k for 11 nights.  

It wasn't a criticism of your choice of holiday (each to their own preferences in my book) just pointing out that there's a bit of a disconnect between looking for value for money and a package AI holiday in a specific resort. A lot of tour operators are looking to recover their COVID losses so I imagine inflated prices will be the order of the day and they will see if people are willing to pay it or not. 

Whether £3k or £2k or whatever is worth it for you is completely up to you and your own preferences. For some people I imagine £3k for 11 nights is perfectly fine in terms of value. For me it wouldn't be. But then I'm not really the kind of person that AI resorts in Tenerife are aimed at. 

As I said though if that's the kind of price inflation that is happening then I'd probably hold off to nearer the time and see what kind of offers are on - it's a non-peak period so it's unlikely places are going to fill up. I know for example I got some really good last minute deals on hotels in the Algarve in November but that was 2021 so things might have changed. There always seem to be deals kicking around for Tunisia and Egypt as well if you just want a beach holiday with warm weather in winter.

For me November would be an ideal time to go further afield and do South East Asia if you can find some reasonable flight options (which is the key as prices have soared) because costs once you're in country are pretty minimal.  

Apologies - I may have come across a bit defensive, but I should welcome all comments. 

It would never have been my choice either, but I may have lost a bit of confidence with the debacle I had during Covid, and having tried AI we were surprised at how much we liked it. 

My parents went to Tenerife regularly, and I never fancied it either, my last trip to the Canaries prior to this was Gran Canaria, air bnb, staying in a flat in the old town in the North away from all the holiday resorts, in the midst of all the restaurants and tapas bars. We really enjoyed that, but I'm not sure I would try it now. 

I love Tenerife and it's my favourite of the Canaries but I would never go AI as half the fun for me is checking out local bars and restaurants.  I have done in Turkey when it is often not much more expensive than B&B but even then I ate out most of the time as cheap AI is cheap for a reason.

The old town of Las Palmas on Gran Canaria is indeed a fun place well away from the beaches of the south coast. Very much a proper Spanish city with very few British tourists.

Agreed on the AI, we tend to spend a fair amount of time in bars/restaurants close to universities, which are generally in historic areas.

I haven't been to Tenerife (or Canarias at all) for about 20 years so can't offer specific advice on where to go though.

Just thinking for a later holiday in the year from where we've been before, I worked in Malta some years ago in November and it was still 20+ degrees in the day.

Egypt would be something else to maybe consider, although there are limited flights from parts of the UK.

Thanks - that's a great suggestion. I've never been to Malta. Now booked.

£470 for flights, with a change at Gatwick. £39 a night for an Airbnb. 

I know it's rare, but I do have good ideas occasionally!

Enjoy

tightauldgit

Went to Malta this January (also for the first time) - other than it being really quiet it was a lovely little place and the weather was good. Also did Cyprus in January and the same applies.

Mands

tightauldgit said:

Went to Malta this January (also for the first time) - other than it being really quiet it was a lovely little place and the weather was good. Also did Cyprus in January and the same applies.

I'm not a fan of Cyprus in January. The weather tends to be worse in Feb, and is considered to be the worst month of the year, but January is still pretty grim. Absolute daytime temperatures look good but you need to figure in the early sunset, the chilly evenings and most of all the poor levels of insulation.

That said, the weather in Cyprus is all over the place this year. I'm sitting here in shorts and t-shirts watching torrential rain and re-booting electrical devices after yet another power cut. So who knows what the rest of the year will bring.