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Council Parking Charges - Jacobs Enforcement

I have 2 parking charge notices which have been posted to my door recently. One of them is for a permit holders only street where I genuinely didn't know it was permit holders only until I got back to my car and saw the ticket, I intended to appeal at the time and forgot about doing so. The second parking charge notice is for a normal pay & display street parking bay, which I really should have paid and now allowed carelessness to spiral to much bigger costs. 

However, the amounts they are requesting are quite confusing as they are far above the original fines and even with added legal fees they should be nowhere near the amounts (£189 permit parking offense) and (£159 failed to pay for bay ticket) respectively. 

How do I go about this, contact Jacobs enforcement and work out a plan to combine both the cases into 1 smaller payment? Its worth noting that I am currently unemployed as I'm between jobs and would be eligible for help with costs should these further escalate to a ccj.


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  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 42,908 Forumite
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    As we major on private parking tickets here, PePiPoo will be your best bet for council tickets. Register there but please note that a Hotmail address won't work - try using a throwaway Gmail account instead if you do have trouble registering, and post a new thread; here's your link:


    Read the sticky 'Read this before you post' as well as reading through some of the other threads there ahead of posting your own details, to get the hang of what information they need from you in your opening post - but as a minimum you will need to post redacted photos/scans of all correspondence you've received from the council (both sides, if appropriate), as they need to see all the small print.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • asdf123456
    asdf123456 Posts: 19 Forumite
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    Haven't received much help on pepipoo after putting the same topic up.
    My v5c was not updated to current address at time of these offences, was thinking my options now are to fill out a te9 and te7 form for each offence, stating in the WS that I did not receive any PCN or Notice to Owner. Is this correct?

    Is the procedure for a council ticket the same as in it is still their responsibility to serve the balance correctly? If so, is the following still true in this instance:
    "A claim sent to an old DVLA registered keeper address with no soft trace checks (costing as
    little as 29 pence and offered free by debt collectors connected to the parking industry) fails
    to meet the IPC Code of Practice, fails to satisfy the specific 'pre-action Protocol for debt
    claims', and is in breach of the CPRs about the obligation to take 'reasonable steps' to check
    a Defendant's address so that service is effective. "

    "I believe the Claimant has not adhered to CPR 6.9 (3) where they had failed to show due
    diligence in using an address at which I no longer resided. The claimant did not take reasonable
    steps to ascertain the address of my current residence, despite having some 5 months to
    establish a valid address."

    I intend to pay of course because I am in the wrong for not updating my v5c, but they are also not doing their due diligence in confirming an address before wasting resources sending notices to an address they have previously received no acknowledgement of debt from? Is a reduction in overall amount due, or a low cost payment plan likely to be accepted as a suggestion or would they then threaten to escalate and take me court?
  • fisherjim
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    Think they charge £75 per debt I don't think you will get around that:

  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 148,533 Forumite
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    Is the procedure for a council ticket the same as in it is still their responsibility to serve the balance correctly?

    If so, is the following still true in this instance:
    "A claim sent to an old DVLA registered keeper address with no soft trace checks (costing as
    little as 29 pence and offered free by debt collectors connected to the parking industry) fails
    to meet the IPC Code of Practice, fails to satisfy the specific 'pre-action Protocol for debt
    claims', and is in breach of the CPRs about the obligation to take 'reasonable steps' to check
    a Defendant's address so that service is effective. "

    Absolutely NOT RELEVANT to Council PCNs!

    You cannot get a CCJ from a Council PCN.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • asdf123456
    asdf123456 Posts: 19 Forumite
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    I see, but they still served PCN's and any following documents to a wrong address, so I should be able to appeal to pay for the original ticket costs sent to my current address right?
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 148,533 Forumite
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    Ask specific questions on pepipoo. They will help.  We do not know the procedure like they do.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
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