Landlord selling my home, advice needed please.

marcia_

poppy12345 said:

COYI123 said:

I’m sorry , but I find this to be very very selfish . As hard as it is , when you go to rent a property , you know full well that there is always the risk of being evicted . It’s the landlords property . If they want to sell within the legal notice they can . As a tenant you know this when you go to rent . This is the risk it carries . For all you know , the landlord may need that money for a personal reason of their own . I don’t believe in trying to long it out as long as possible and make the process longer and harder for yourself and the landlord . You should be spending more time trying to find you’re next property, instead of getting videos on how to change a lock . 

You're entitled to your opinion and that's fine. I don't see anything selfish in anything i said. It's my home, regardless of what you think.

How dare you tell me to spend more time looking for a property instead of watching how to change locks videos. I've been looking for properties every single day since i found out it's going up for sale!

You can believe what you want but if i can't find another home then i'll have no option but to stay as long as i can.

35har1old said:

Also their statutory duty to carry out inspections of boilers and fire alarms giving excess to tradespeople

I've always given the LA access to my home for everything they've needed.

 And it's your legal right to stay until a Court orders you to leave so ignore anyone who says poor landlord 

CSI_Yorkshire

marcia_ said:

poppy12345 said:

COYI123 said:

I’m sorry , but I find this to be very very selfish . As hard as it is , when you go to rent a property , you know full well that there is always the risk of being evicted . It’s the landlords property . If they want to sell within the legal notice they can . As a tenant you know this when you go to rent . This is the risk it carries . For all you know , the landlord may need that money for a personal reason of their own . I don’t believe in trying to long it out as long as possible and make the process longer and harder for yourself and the landlord . You should be spending more time trying to find you’re next property, instead of getting videos on how to change a lock . 

You're entitled to your opinion and that's fine. I don't see anything selfish in anything i said. It's my home, regardless of what you think.

How dare you tell me to spend more time looking for a property instead of watching how to change locks videos. I've been looking for properties every single day since i found out it's going up for sale!

You can believe what you want but if i can't find another home then i'll have no option but to stay as long as i can.

35har1old said:

Also their statutory duty to carry out inspections of boilers and fire alarms giving excess to tradespeople

I've always given the LA access to my home for everything they've needed.

 And it's your legal right to stay until a Court orders you to leave so ignore anyone who says poor landlord 

Quite true, but of course consider the implications of renting in the future when you needed to be evicted by court from a previous rental.

It is a little selfish to try and insist that a landlord can't sell their property because you're living there, but I don't think the OP has done that.  It's not selfish to use the legal route, but there are consequences that must be considered.

It would also be selfish for a landlord to try and sell their property without some sensible discussion with the sitting tenants.

If both sides are sensible and (as far as possible) unemotional, it all works.  When one side gets argumentative or inconsiderate, it can become adversarial, and there is nothing wrong with preparing and knowing your options/requirements.

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marcia_ said:

poppy12345 said:

COYI123 said:

I’m sorry , but I find this to be very very selfish . As hard as it is , when you go to rent a property , you know full well that there is always the risk of being evicted . It’s the landlords property . If they want to sell within the legal notice they can . As a tenant you know this when you go to rent . This is the risk it carries . For all you know , the landlord may need that money for a personal reason of their own . I don’t believe in trying to long it out as long as possible and make the process longer and harder for yourself and the landlord . You should be spending more time trying to find you’re next property, instead of getting videos on how to change a lock . 

You're entitled to your opinion and that's fine. I don't see anything selfish in anything i said. It's my home, regardless of what you think.

How dare you tell me to spend more time looking for a property instead of watching how to change locks videos. I've been looking for properties every single day since i found out it's going up for sale!

You can believe what you want but if i can't find another home then i'll have no option but to stay as long as i can.

35har1old said:

Also their statutory duty to carry out inspections of boilers and fire alarms giving excess to tradespeople

I've always given the LA access to my home for everything they've needed.

 And it's your legal right to stay until a Court orders you to leave so ignore anyone who says poor landlord 

It doesn't sound like OP wants to get to a situation where a court is ordering that they leave, with no planned alternative accommodation, possible costs and no or negative reference. Changing the locks, whilst legal, seems to be taking things off on a tangent when the landlord has never once tried to enter improperly. 

I wouldnt say poor landlord and I certainly dont think OP is selfish but time and again on this forum folk have advocated regulation and tax on landlords with a view landlords being forced to sell up. Yet, clearly there is no celebration here for OP.

Focus on the letting agent helping with an alternative property rather than becoming difficult as some will suggest: refusing viewings, changing locks.

Next year, I will sell, and I will focus on arrangements which see the tenants vacate before I market.

poppy12345

I haven’t insisted that my landlord can’t sell the property. 

The reason I asked about changing the locks is purely because I’m going away in the next couple of months and I really don’t want them coming into my home while I’m not here. However, having thought about this more it’s highly unlikely I would do this. 

I totally understand the implications if this goes to court but on the other hand I can’t make myself homeless. I have health conditions too, which makes the possibility of being homeless even more worrying. 

The property is managed by the LA and I have never met or spoken to the LL. When they told me she’s selling they also said it would be put up as an investment property only, with myself and daughter as sitting tenants. Yet when I seen it advertised, there’s no mention of us, the fact the viewer didn’t know we live here is proof of this.

It’s also advertised as a perfect home for a small family and first time buyers. I’ve contacted the agents about this and am waiting for a call back. 

I also spoke to the LL’s maintenance guy this morning and told him what it’s advertised as and he’s confirmed to me that it should not be advertised as anything other than an investment property, with sitting tenants. He’s going to contact the LL on my behalf. 

Yes, I’m aware that it’s always a risk the LL can sell when privately renting but with the waiting lists for HA homes being so ridiculous, what other choice is there? 

COYI123

poppy12345 said:

COYI123 said:

I’m sorry , but I find this to be very very selfish . As hard as it is , when you go to rent a property , you know full well that there is always the risk of being evicted . It’s the landlords property . If they want to sell within the legal notice they can . As a tenant you know this when you go to rent . This is the risk it carries . For all you know , the landlord may need that money for a personal reason of their own . I don’t believe in trying to long it out as long as possible and make the process longer and harder for yourself and the landlord . You should be spending more time trying to find you’re next property, instead of getting videos on how to change a lock . 

You're entitled to your opinion and that's fine. I don't see anything selfish in anything i said. It's my home, regardless of what you think.

How dare you tell me to spend more time looking for a property instead of watching how to change locks videos. I've been looking for properties every single day since i found out it's going up for sale!

You can believe what you want but if i can't find another home then i'll have no option but to stay as long as i can.

35har1old said:

Also their statutory duty to carry out inspections of boilers and fire alarms giving excess to tradespeople

I've always given the LA access to my home for everything they've needed.

The thing is , it’s not you’re home . It’s the landlords home . People go and rent and all of a sudden think that the landlord shouldn’t be able to do what they want with the property . That’s life . That’s the implications of renting a property and the risk that comes with it . I find it selfish that you would try to long it out and make it more difficult for the landlord . Like I said , how do you know that they are not in desperate need due to a personal reason , wether it be a health issue or financial issue , for that money ? You have to think of the bigger picture . That’s my opinion 

propertyrental

COYI123 said:

poppy12345 said:

COYI123 said:

I’m sorry , but I find this to be very very selfish . As hard as it is , when you go to rent a property , you know full well that there is always the risk of being evicted . It’s the landlords property . If they want to sell within the legal notice they can . As a tenant you know this when you go to rent . This is the risk it carries . For all you know , the landlord may need that money for a personal reason of their own . I don’t believe in trying to long it out as long as possible and make the process longer and harder for yourself and the landlord . You should be spending more time trying to find you’re next property, instead of getting videos on how to change a lock . 

You're entitled to your opinion and that's fine. I don't see anything selfish in anything i said. It's my home, regardless of what you think.

How dare you tell me to spend more time looking for a property instead of watching how to change locks videos. I've been looking for properties every single day since i found out it's going up for sale!

You can believe what you want but if i can't find another home then i'll have no option but to stay as long as i can.

35har1old said:

Also their statutory duty to carry out inspections of boilers and fire alarms giving excess to tradespeople

I've always given the LA access to my home for everything they've needed.

The thing is , it’s not you’re home . It’s the landlords home . People go and rent and all of a sudden think that the landlord shouldn’t be able to do what they want with the property . That’s life . That’s the implications of renting a property and the risk that comes with it . I find it selfish that you would try to long it out and make it more difficult for the landlord . Like I said , how do you know that they are not in desperate need due to a personal reason , wether it be a health issue or financial issue , for that money ? You have to think of the bigger picture . That’s my opinion 

Strange definition of 'home'!  Does the LL keep his pyjamas there? I always thought one's 'home' was where on lives; eats, sleeps and forni........

And by that (my) definition it is definitely the tenant's home, not the LL's.

It is the LL's 'property', which he owns as a business venture, subject to a host of legal rules and obligations. In some countries, including the UK up till the 1988 Housing Act, tenants have/had strong rights protecting their 'home'. and the current plans to remove the S21 route to eviction is intended to re-balance the tenant's right to security of their 'home' Vs the LL's right to manage their business as they choose.

I would re-write your post as follows:

People go and rent let out their property and all of a sudden think that the landlord tenant shouldn’t be able to do what they want with the property  their home. That’s life . That’s the implications of renting running a letting business a property and the risk that comes with it 

lookstraightahead

COYI123 said:

poppy12345 said:

I often read the threads on here and i know there are some very knowledgable people here. I'm hoping some of you can advise me please because i'm in complete panic mode.

I've lived in my house for 3.5 years and i'm a housing benefit claimant. My landlord has a chain of properties that they rent out but has decided to put several up for sale, my home being one of them. It's currently managed by a letting agency. When i was first told about this a couple of months ago i was informed that it wouldn't be advertised on the open market and it would be sent to people on their contact list as an investment property only.

There's been 1 viewing but that possible investment buyer didn't offer on this property but instead offered on another close to where i live. Fast forward to last Friday and i was contacted to tell me that another possible buyer would be coming today to view. When i asked if it was an investment buyer i was told no, it's a buyer hoping to live here their self.

As a benefits tenant, you'll all know how extremely difficult it is to rent anywhere because mostly LL's do not accept DSS tenants. I've never been in any arrears with my rent, i keep my home clean and tidy. I've had many compliments from the letting agency about how immaculate my home is. I can get a home owner guarantor too but even with that, it's very difficult.

My question is, if this person does make an offer and it's accepted what will happen? I have no where else to live and with a health condition being homeless is the last thing i need. I was told by the agency that they will give me 2 months notice, which isn't long to battle to find another home. Can they really evict me that quickly? Please help.

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How about "home ownership"

Consider anyone who has a mortgage. The property can still be taken by the lender. But there are laws and protection in place for mortgagees to prevent homelessness in the short term. Banks have to do all they can to help.

there are lots of risk with homeownership. When you take on a mortgage, you can lose your job. You can find yourself with a new disability. You can get into mortgage debt or divorce. You know these risks when you take on a mortgage. So what do you say to someone with a mortgage? Get out straight away as it's not your home, the house belongs to the bank (shareholders) and you know the risk? 

Whether a tenant or someone with a mortgage, it's still your home.  

I've been a landlord and a tenant. There's an element of trust on both sides. But the op is in a difficult situation. 

GDB2222

I suggest getting in touch with the local authority, and explaining the situation. They will eventually have the obligation to provide you with accommodation, so you won’t end up on the street. However, given the shortage of public housing they will probably tell you to hang on until the court orders you to leave.  They may help you find another place to live within the private sector.


How does your current rent compare with the local reference rent?

lookstraightahead

COYI123 said:

poppy12345 said:

COYI123 said:

I’m sorry , but I find this to be very very selfish . As hard as it is , when you go to rent a property , you know full well that there is always the risk of being evicted . It’s the landlords property . If they want to sell within the legal notice they can . As a tenant you know this when you go to rent . This is the risk it carries . For all you know , the landlord may need that money for a personal reason of their own . I don’t believe in trying to long it out as long as possible and make the process longer and harder for yourself and the landlord . You should be spending more time trying to find you’re next property, instead of getting videos on how to change a lock . 

You're entitled to your opinion and that's fine. I don't see anything selfish in anything i said. It's my home, regardless of what you think.

How dare you tell me to spend more time looking for a property instead of watching how to change locks videos. I've been looking for properties every single day since i found out it's going up for sale!

You can believe what you want but if i can't find another home then i'll have no option but to stay as long as i can.

35har1old said:

Also their statutory duty to carry out inspections of boilers and fire alarms giving excess to tradespeople

I've always given the LA access to my home for everything they've needed.

The thing is , it’s not you’re home . It’s the landlords home . People go and rent and all of a sudden think that the landlord shouldn’t be able to do what they want with the property . That’s life . That’s the implications of renting a property and the risk that comes with it . I find it selfish that you would try to long it out and make it more difficult for the landlord . Like I said , how do you know that they are not in desperate need due to a personal reason , wether it be a health issue or financial issue , for that money ? You have to think of the bigger picture . That’s my opinion 

In the same guise as your comments, "the landlord knew the risks"

GDB2222

lookstraightahead said:

COYI123 said:

poppy12345 said:

COYI123 said:

I’m sorry , but I find this to be very very selfish . As hard as it is , when you go to rent a property , you know full well that there is always the risk of being evicted . It’s the landlords property . If they want to sell within the legal notice they can . As a tenant you know this when you go to rent . This is the risk it carries . For all you know , the landlord may need that money for a personal reason of their own . I don’t believe in trying to long it out as long as possible and make the process longer and harder for yourself and the landlord . You should be spending more time trying to find you’re next property, instead of getting videos on how to change a lock . 

You're entitled to your opinion and that's fine. I don't see anything selfish in anything i said. It's my home, regardless of what you think.

How dare you tell me to spend more time looking for a property instead of watching how to change locks videos. I've been looking for properties every single day since i found out it's going up for sale!

You can believe what you want but if i can't find another home then i'll have no option but to stay as long as i can.

35har1old said:

Also their statutory duty to carry out inspections of boilers and fire alarms giving excess to tradespeople

I've always given the LA access to my home for everything they've needed.

The thing is , it’s not you’re home . It’s the landlords home . People go and rent and all of a sudden think that the landlord shouldn’t be able to do what they want with the property . That’s life . That’s the implications of renting a property and the risk that comes with it . I find it selfish that you would try to long it out and make it more difficult for the landlord . Like I said , how do you know that they are not in desperate need due to a personal reason , wether it be a health issue or financial issue , for that money ? You have to think of the bigger picture . That’s my opinion 

In the same guise as your comments, "the landlord knew the risks"

The OP needs practical advice. Maybe, all the moralists should start their own thread?