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Air conditioning - one unit on each floor?

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  • danrv
    danrv Posts: 1,533 Forumite
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    edited 8 June 2023 pm30 8:42PM
    chris_n said:
    danrv said:
    chris_n said:
    You actually need planning permission for just one heat pump if it is to be used for cooling.
    That’s what I installed. No planning permission. 
    It may depend on where the neighbours are. The property facing my Aircon inverter is 17m away.
    I wouldn't apply for it either but that doesn't mean that you aren't supposed to. If the neighbours might be unhappy then it's best to ask the question anyway.
    The neighbour’s property is council/HA owned. The other side which isn’t are fine with it.
  • Clive_Woody
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    We started off with ceiling fans and they are 'ok' when temperatures are just a bit warm and definitely make a room more comfortable. They are cheap, easy to install and cost virtually nothing to run. But on very hot days they ain't very good and we decided to have a couple of air con units installed and WOW what an improvement......there is really no comparison. You don't need both. Contact Daikin or Mitsubishi......I think they have approved designers and installers. They will probably be more expensive than John's A/C down the road.....and I'm aware this is a money saving web site......but it's your choice.
    If you don't mind me asking how much did it cost to have your aircon units installed?

    I work from home and my office can get ridiculously hot over the summer and would definitely benefit from aircon in there and possibly other rooms.
    "We act as though comfort and luxury are the chief requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about” – Albert Einstein
  • blizeH
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    chris_n said:
    blizeH said:
    FreeBear said:
    blizeH said: But another spanner in the works is that two of our neighbours are pretty unhappy about the idea of us getting one, and are very worried about the noise :/
    Pretty sure you'd need planning permission for two units. If you don't apply for PP, and the neighbours complain, you could find yourself having to strip it all out.

    Oh damn, I didn't realise that - thank you! :/ Looking like this could be a no go then, will have to look at alternative ways of cooling :(
    You actually need planning permission for just one heat pump if it is to be used for cooling.
    Thanks, I spoke to the installer and he assured me that it wouldn't need permission, even for two?
  • blizeH
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    I suggest you plot out where heat is coming from in the house.  It looks to me, for instance, as though the sun room could get very hot - and is it then open to the hall, and to rise up the stairs?  So interrupting that flow right at the start, perhaps with blinds/doors/curtains would be worth working out.  Then looks at the traditional methods of opening windows on the shady side and drawing curtains on the sunny side for rooms you aren't in.
    Thanks, that's really good advice. I'd also like to wait until we have a bit of a heatwave to see which rooms get the most hot, but my wife is keen to get it asap. The sun room will definitely be a problem, especially since there's no door on there at the moment (the opening is pretty big and it'll require a large/custom door I think)
  • blizeH said:
    chris_n said:
    blizeH said:
    FreeBear said:
    blizeH said: But another spanner in the works is that two of our neighbours are pretty unhappy about the idea of us getting one, and are very worried about the noise :/
    Pretty sure you'd need planning permission for two units. If you don't apply for PP, and the neighbours complain, you could find yourself having to strip it all out.

    Oh damn, I didn't realise that - thank you! :/ Looking like this could be a no go then, will have to look at alternative ways of cooling :(
    You actually need planning permission for just one heat pump if it is to be used for cooling.
    Thanks, I spoke to the installer and he assured me that it wouldn't need permission, even for two?
    Probably safest to ask the council rather than an installer who is keen to get your business and who won't be affected if you have to remove it
  • Rodders53
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    blizeH said:
    Thanks, I spoke to the installer and he assured me that it wouldn't need permission, even for two?
    He lies.  Don't trust / use him.

    https://www.planningportal.co.uk/permission/common-projects/heat-pumps/planning-permission-air-source-heat-pump
  • danrv
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    edited 9 June 2023 am30 10:39AM
    blizeH said:
    chris_n said:
    blizeH said:
    FreeBear said:
    blizeH said: But another spanner in the works is that two of our neighbours are pretty unhappy about the idea of us getting one, and are very worried about the noise :/
    Pretty sure you'd need planning permission for two units. If you don't apply for PP, and the neighbours complain, you could find yourself having to strip it all out.

    Oh damn, I didn't realise that - thank you! :/ Looking like this could be a no go then, will have to look at alternative ways of cooling :(
    You actually need planning permission for just one heat pump if it is to be used for cooling.
    Thanks, I spoke to the installer and he assured me that it wouldn't need permission, even for two?
    Probably safest to ask the council rather than an installer who is keen to get your business and who won't be affected if you have to remove it
    True but would the installer risk giving bad advice? It wouldn’t do their reputation any good.
  • blizeH
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    Rodders53 said:
    blizeH said:
    Thanks, I spoke to the installer and he assured me that it wouldn't need permission, even for two?
    He lies.  Don't trust / use him.

    https://www.planningportal.co.uk/permission/common-projects/heat-pumps/planning-permission-air-source-heat-pump
    Thanks, I actually sent this exact link to him yesterday :/ I think I need to contact the local council as suggested above, thank you!

  • chris_n
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    The bit that actually causes a problem is:-

    In addition, the following conditions must also be met. The air source heat pump must be:
    • Used solely for heating purposes
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  • blizeH
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    Damn. Thank you. Not sure if the guy genuinely doesn’t know, or if he’s just trying to secure the sale 
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