UKPC - Have I missed Deadline / is this defence ok

maria212

B789 said:

This is the template defence you should be using for a UKPC/DCB Legal claim:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5r7vbqttho3q948/2023 defence.pdf?dl=0

Thanks thats the one i used, does it seem different?

Not_A_Hope

however my new case is different in the sense there is proper signage all around and it was a different reason so I’m seeking help again

You might want to get some photos of what you think is ‘proper signage all around’ and let the regulars comment on it. Most parking signage is so poor it often cannot form a contract which they are now alleging you broke.

maria212

Hi All 

Thanks for the help,

Sorry Im a bit confused - for clarification, am I supposed to be using this defence

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6108153/suggested-template-defence-to-adapt-for-all-parking-charge-cases-where-they-add-false-admin-costs/p1


with 5-11 from this one below


https://www.dropbox.com/s/5r7vbqttho3q948/2023 defence.pdf?dl=0


or Do I just fully use the one above
 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/5r7vbqttho3q948/2023 defence.pdf?dl=0) and amend my parts?


 I realllly appreciate the help, I have to submit today and am only available till 11am due to hospital shifts. 

Thanks for all the help

maria212

Not_A_Hope said:

however my new case is different in the sense there is proper signage all around and it was a different reason so I’m seeking help again

You might want to get some photos of what you think is ‘proper signage all around’ and let the regulars comment on it. Most parking signage is so poor it often cannot form a contract which they are now alleging you broke.

I will do thos once defences submitted 

Le_Kirk

maria212 said:

Do I just fully use the one below
 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/5r7vbqttho3q948/2023 defence.pdf?dl=0) and amend my parts?

Use that one and adjust your paragraphs 2 & 3 to suit your circumstances.  It is a combination of the standard template defence and the usual one when there are sparse POC.

maria212

Le_Kirk said:

maria212 said:

Do I just fully use the one below
 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/5r7vbqttho3q948/2023 defence.pdf?dl=0) and amend my parts?

Use that one and adjust your paragraphs 2 & 3 to suit your circumstances.  It is a combination of the standard template defence and the usual one when there are sparse POC.

Thanks i did this, got the auto response but I digitally signed it as I didnt have a scanner but then they replied saying needs to be signed; so i found a way to print and scan from phone which I did. 

however I only checked again now think the document wasnt able to be opened so Im worried it wont be acceptable and it’s past the deadline. 

Coupon-mad

Send it again by email now, and ring them.  Takes CCBC an hour or more to answer.

Did they SERIOUSLY reject a defence as it was digitally signed, even though ALL parking form claim documents are digitally signed?

maria212

Coupon-mad said:

Send it again by email now, and ring them.  Takes CCBC an hour or more to answer.

Did they SERIOUSLY reject a defence as it was digitally signed, even though ALL parking form claim documents are digitally signed?

This was the reply I got below, this was like 1 hour after I submitted, I was quite surprised too as I often digitally sign stuff for work, thought it may as its not a physical signature- (it’s done by adobe pdf - just my name and dated and states digitally signed)

Thank you for your response. 

  

I’ve processed your response but am returning it to you as it wasn’t signed. 

 

If the case goes to court, it may not be considered a valid document. 

 

So in my response, I did say it was digitally signed, I just called and got through eventually  and the person said she couldn’t see my second one had been registered or check if they could open it but I could re-send again now and call tomorrow to see if it had been registered. 

She also stated as my original had been registered in time it didnt matter that It was re-sent today, I have re-sent it again and this time I checked it can be opened by cc’ing myself too, so fingers crossed!

B789

Refer them to this:

https://www.lawcom.gov.uk/project/electronic-execution-of-documents/