Paper tax form request

RainbowsInTheSpray

For years (25 plus) OH and I have been filling in and returning paper tax forms, for a long time now the SA200 short forms. Suddenly and out of the blue, I have received a letter saying I MUST fill in an online declaration... whereas OH has received the SA 200 as usual. We always fill our forms together as our situations are near identical.

Is this a legally enforceable instruction or have I the right to request the usual paper forms, does anyone know? I am getting sick to death of the nerds (and penny pinchers) taking over.

Dazed_and_C0nfused

RainbowsInTheSpray said:

For years (25 plus) OH and I have been filling in and returning paper tax forms, for a long time now the SA200 short forms. Suddenly and out of the blue, I have received a letter saying I MUST fill in an online declaration... whereas OH has received the SA 200 as usual. We always fill our forms together as our situations are near identical.

Is this a legally enforceable instruction or have I the right to request the usual paper forms, does anyone know? I am getting sick to death of the nerds (and penny pinchers) taking over.

Are you younger than your wife?

eskbanker

RainbowsInTheSpray said:

have I the right to request the usual paper forms, does anyone know?

https://community.hmrc.gov.uk/customerforums/sa/8df1aa1c-e8ef-ed11-913b-00155d9c6b71 suggests that you can ask for the paper version if you feel that self-assessing online is such a big issue....

Dazed_and_C0nfused

eskbanker said:

RainbowsInTheSpray said:

have I the right to request the usual paper forms, does anyone know?

https://community.hmrc.gov.uk/customerforums/sa/8df1aa1c-e8ef-ed11-913b-00155d9c6b71 suggests that you can ask for the paper version if you feel that self-assessing online is such a big issue....

It does seem odd that someone who can use on online forum like this is averse to filing a tax return online 🤔

xylophone

It does seem odd that someone who can use on online forum like this is averse to filing a tax return online 

Personal choice?

RainbowsInTheSpray

Dazed_and_C0nfused said:

RainbowsInTheSpray said:

For years (25 plus) OH and I have been filling in and returning paper tax forms, for a long time now the SA200 short forms. Suddenly and out of the blue, I have received a letter saying I MUST fill in an online declaration... whereas OH has received the SA 200 as usual. We always fill our forms together as our situations are near identical.

Is this a legally enforceable instruction or have I the right to request the usual paper forms, does anyone know? I am getting sick to death of the nerds (and penny pinchers) taking over.

Are you younger than your wife?

We are within a year of each other.

Dazed_and_C0nfused

RainbowsInTheSpray said:

Dazed_and_C0nfused said:

RainbowsInTheSpray said:

For years (25 plus) OH and I have been filling in and returning paper tax forms, for a long time now the SA200 short forms. Suddenly and out of the blue, I have received a letter saying I MUST fill in an online declaration... whereas OH has received the SA 200 as usual. We always fill our forms together as our situations are near identical.

Is this a legally enforceable instruction or have I the right to request the usual paper forms, does anyone know? I am getting sick to death of the nerds (and penny pinchers) taking over.

Are you younger than your wife?

We are within a year of each other.

So maybe maybe not.

Could be age related though.

https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/hmrc-to-stop-sending-paper-tax-returns-to-thousands-of-under-70s-aL7h53h0VMFl

Albermarle

RainbowsInTheSpray said:

Dazed_and_C0nfused said:

RainbowsInTheSpray said:

For years (25 plus) OH and I have been filling in and returning paper tax forms, for a long time now the SA200 short forms. Suddenly and out of the blue, I have received a letter saying I MUST fill in an online declaration... whereas OH has received the SA 200 as usual. We always fill our forms together as our situations are near identical.

Is this a legally enforceable instruction or have I the right to request the usual paper forms, does anyone know? I am getting sick to death of the nerds (and penny pinchers) taking over.

Are you younger than your wife?

We are within a year of each other.

Are you sure you still actually need to fill in a tax return? Most people do not.

Check if you need to send a Self Assessment tax return - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

RainbowsInTheSpray

Albermarle said:

RainbowsInTheSpray said:

Dazed_and_C0nfused said:

RainbowsInTheSpray said:

For years (25 plus) OH and I have been filling in and returning paper tax forms, for a long time now the SA200 short forms. Suddenly and out of the blue, I have received a letter saying I MUST fill in an online declaration... whereas OH has received the SA 200 as usual. We always fill our forms together as our situations are near identical.

Is this a legally enforceable instruction or have I the right to request the usual paper forms, does anyone know? I am getting sick to death of the nerds (and penny pinchers) taking over.

Are you younger than your wife?

We are within a year of each other.

Are you sure you still actually need to fill in a tax return? Most people do not.

Check if you need to send a Self Assessment tax return - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

We have income from property letting. It's almost entirely for this reason that we've had to self-assess for the last God-knows-how-many years.

[Deleted User]

RainbowsInTheSpray said:

Albermarle said:

RainbowsInTheSpray said:

Dazed_and_C0nfused said:

RainbowsInTheSpray said:

For years (25 plus) OH and I have been filling in and returning paper tax forms, for a long time now the SA200 short forms. Suddenly and out of the blue, I have received a letter saying I MUST fill in an online declaration... whereas OH has received the SA 200 as usual. We always fill our forms together as our situations are near identical.

Is this a legally enforceable instruction or have I the right to request the usual paper forms, does anyone know? I am getting sick to death of the nerds (and penny pinchers) taking over.

Are you younger than your wife?

We are within a year of each other.

Are you sure you still actually need to fill in a tax return? Most people do not.

Check if you need to send a Self Assessment tax return - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

We have income from property letting. It's almost entirely for this reason that we've had to self-assess for the last God-knows-how-many years.

Now on HMRC website:

Only fill in the short tax return (SA200) if HMRC sends it to you. You cannot download it, but you can read the guidance notes.

snowgo

I have been trying to get a paper tax return to no avail.  I am one year short of the 70 year age line for continuing to get a paper return sent automatically.  I am retired but have been doing small bits of self employed work when requested by former commissioners, and because of this a self-assessment return is necessary.  This may be the last year that I do this work, so I am reluctant to start filing online, when I know what I am doing with the paper return.  I've been doing paper returns for 30+ years, so not inclined to change for just one more year. There is also the principle of choice.  I feel that HMRC are railroading me into doing things the way that suits them, not the way it suits me.

I did believe that one could still opt into paper returns.  But it seems that HMRC are making it very difficult.  I wrote to them on 10 April requesting a paper return.  No response.  I tried phoning on the number that they listed for requesting a paper form.  There is just a pre-recorded message saying that they are not taking calls for paper returns.  I wrote to them again on 2 June, repeating request for paper return.  No response.  Considering now making a complaint.  Anyone else in similar position?