Suggestions for a new toilet please

lokz

Hello all,

Our toilet bowl has a crack and is in need of a replacement.This will be our main toilet used by 2 adults and 2 kids  . Hence looking for something which can last longer . I am newbie home owner and haven't replaced one before.

I have a budget of 250-300 in my mind . Looking for a rimless, comfort height and elongated toilet. Not sure if i should go for a back to wall as read about them being difficult to repair (but easy to maintain).

A plumber quoted 150 to replace it with a new one at the same position. But quoted 200 to move to a different wall on the corner as he said it requires more work.

I can go higher on the budget if there is any compelling reason for that. Getting confused with a lot of options / brands out there. Our current one is Roca (installed by previous owners)

Please help me decide . Thanks.

baser999

Moving the toilet to another wall is likely to entail the fitting of new pipe work, both internally and external. 

mi-key

Unless there is a real reason to move it, then put the new one in the same place. One thing to be aware of is the measurements of the toilet and tank. They aren't all the same and sometimes if you fit the new toilet to the old sewer outlet, the tank will leave a gap from the wall, or be too close and not fit.

grumbler

baser999 said:

Moving the toilet to another wall is likely to entail the fitting of new pipe work, both internally and external. 

Do you mean either? Many houses don't have any external pipes except guttering downpipes.

lokz

 But quoted 200 to move to a different wall on the corner as he said it requires more work.

     Just to make sure, its a corner and currently the toilet is on one side of the corner and I am thinking to move to the other side of the same corner. Hence no external pipes are required. Just an internal pipe and few other extras. Also its very close to the corner. Hence not much of work I think.  ( I think as the plumber had also seen it in person )
   

lokz

I have a budget of 250-300 in my mind . Looking for a rimless, comfort height and elongated toilet . Not sure if i should go for a back to wall as read about them being difficult to repair (but easy to maintain).

    I am definitely looking for a rimless and comfort height. Looked at some  brands like Roca and Ideal Standard online . They are about 400 - 600 in range for what I was looking. Is this amount worth it in the long term. or can i get a good one at around 300 for may be?

theoretica

Are you also replacing the cistern?  I prefer syphon flushes after a few encounters with valve flushes which dribbled water constantly into the pan, wasting it. 

lokz

theoretica said:

Are you also replacing the cistern?  I prefer syphon flushes after a few encounters with valve flushes which dribbled water constantly into the pan, wasting it. 

    Yes I am replacing the cistern as well.

jennifernil

We have Ideal Standard back to wall toilets,  the cistern is in a unit, not in the wall itself.  The units to house the cistern can be pricey,  but  you do not need to buy an Ideal Standard one.   If you have some DIY skills, they are actually very easy to make yourself.  My OH has made 3 so far using white kitchen doors and drawer fronts, in our case from Ikea.

The sides are 800x200 drawer fronts, the front is a 600x200 drawer front with a 600x600 door below.  The back, to fix the cistern to, and the strengthening bits can be anything as they are not seen. We used some bits of melamine covered chipboard we had.  The whole thing is held together with L shaped brackets.

 You can buy the clips etc required for attaching the removable front panels on Amazon.  Fitting small feet to it is also a good plan, in case of water on the floor.  

You can make the top from some sort of kitchen  type worktop, or  bathroom tops are available from various places.   We found some Ikea wooden chopping boards are large enough for the purpose.

Our toilets are the rimless ones with the Aquablade flush system, but the  comfort height ones do not, as far as I know, come with Aquablade flush, we just have standard height.

For children, comfort height could be a little too high.

We have Grohe cisterns, it is  worth getting a good quality cistern.  The flush buttons can be quite pricey.

Snuggles

We recently had a comfort height rimless toilet fitted in our new bathroom - a RAK Resort Maxi:

RAK Resort Maxi Rimless Close Coupled Full Access Toilet + Quick Release Soft Close Urea Seat (victorianplumbing.co.uk)

We went for the open back full access version, but they also do a back to wall version.

We chose the open back because I prefer to be able to see if anything is leaking, having previously had a toilet leak from underneath the cistern.

We are delighted with it (as much as you can be with a toilet!). The flush is very powerful, it's easy to clean, comfortable, feels really sturdy and looks modern without being a weird shape. 

Snuggles

jennifernil said:

For children, comfort height could be a little too high.

Ah yes, just noticed the OP says she had 2 children. Depending on their age, I do think they could struggle with the comfort height. I'm 5' 6" and it took me a while to get used to it, whereas it's great for my very tall husband.