Seeds and plants

smitaly69

My seedlings were awful , I hope T and M do better for other people, the plugs were the smallest I've seen and were a right mess.

sarah1972

pmd the team to move to the green fingered board as it's currently not on any board

fatbelly

Pot those on straight away and I suspect they'll all take and look healthy really quickly. Journeying through the post is going to be stressful for any plant

Silvertabby

Those are too far gone to recover. I stopped buying from T&M last year, when I had a couple of similarly bad orders.  Use Suttons and Hayloft now.  

comeandgo

I stopped buying on line due to plants arriving in bad condition too.  Sutton’s were taken over by T and M so stopped buying from them.

A._Badger

comeandgo said:

I stopped buying on line due to plants arriving in bad condition too.  Sutton’s were taken over by T and M so stopped buying from them.

Can you confirm that takeover, please? As far as I am aware, Suttons is still owned by the same team that undertook a management buyout in 2014. Wikipedia confirms this but isn't the most reliable source.  It matters because Suttnos has long been one of the more reliable horticultural suppliers.

twopenny

If the growing points are healthy and no sign of mold I'd agree to pot on  asap and they should recover.
General growth will be held back tho.
What are the roots like?

elsien

A._Badger said:

comeandgo said:

I stopped buying on line due to plants arriving in bad condition too.  Sutton’s were taken over by T and M so stopped buying from them.

Can you confirm that takeover, please? As far as I am aware, Suttons is still owned by the same team that undertook a management buyout in 2014. Wikipedia confirms this but isn't the most reliable source.  It matters because Suttnos has long been one of the more reliable horticultural suppliers.

https://www.mandycanudigit.com/2020/12/01/bvg-group-buys-suttons-seeds-ltd/

The companies house info also gives the Thompson and Morgan address with the new directors appointed at the time of the takeover. 

A._Badger

elsien said:

A._Badger said:

comeandgo said:

I stopped buying on line due to plants arriving in bad condition too.  Sutton’s were taken over by T and M so stopped buying from them.

Can you confirm that takeover, please? As far as I am aware, Suttons is still owned by the same team that undertook a management buyout in 2014. Wikipedia confirms this but isn't the most reliable source.  It matters because Suttnos has long been one of the more reliable horticultural suppliers.

https://www.mandycanudigit.com/2020/12/01/bvg-group-buys-suttons-seeds-ltd/

The companies house info also gives the Thompson and Morgan address with the new directors appointed at the time of the takeover. 

Thank you, that's very depressing news. Suttons has always been a good company to deal with, in my experience. I can't say the same for Thompson and Morgan. These buyouts and consolidations never seem to work in favour of the consumer (and often not even for the companies involved, come to that).

Farway

A._Badger said:

elsien said:

A._Badger said:

comeandgo said:

I stopped buying on line due to plants arriving in bad condition too.  Sutton’s were taken over by T and M so stopped buying from them.

Can you confirm that takeover, please? As far as I am aware, Suttons is still owned by the same team that undertook a management buyout in 2014. Wikipedia confirms this but isn't the most reliable source.  It matters because Suttnos has long been one of the more reliable horticultural suppliers.

https://www.mandycanudigit.com/2020/12/01/bvg-group-buys-suttons-seeds-ltd/

The companies house info also gives the Thompson and Morgan address with the new directors appointed at the time of the takeover. 

Thank you, that's very depressing news. Suttons has always been a good company to deal with, in my experience. I can't say the same for Thompson and Morgan. These buyouts and consolidations never seem to work in favour of the consumer (and often not even for the companies involved, come to that).

Likewise regarding Suttons, from way back when they were based in Reading and I used to buy from their shop there

A._Badger

Farway said:

A._Badger said:

elsien said:

A._Badger said:

comeandgo said:

I stopped buying on line due to plants arriving in bad condition too.  Sutton’s were taken over by T and M so stopped buying from them.

Can you confirm that takeover, please? As far as I am aware, Suttons is still owned by the same team that undertook a management buyout in 2014. Wikipedia confirms this but isn't the most reliable source.  It matters because Suttnos has long been one of the more reliable horticultural suppliers.

https://www.mandycanudigit.com/2020/12/01/bvg-group-buys-suttons-seeds-ltd/

The companies house info also gives the Thompson and Morgan address with the new directors appointed at the time of the takeover. 

Thank you, that's very depressing news. Suttons has always been a good company to deal with, in my experience. I can't say the same for Thompson and Morgan. These buyouts and consolidations never seem to work in favour of the consumer (and often not even for the companies involved, come to that).

Likewise regarding Suttons, from way back when they were based in Reading and I used to buy from their shop there

Yes, I remember them in Reading, too, though I never bought directly from their shop. This consolidation in horticulture is worrying. Fothergill has been swallowing-up the competition right left and centre (D,.T. Brown, Woolmans etc) and I'm not awfully impressed by the results. What Westland has done to Marshalls and Unwins is another example...