No Photo ID

WeeBawbee

WeeBawbee said:

Maybe I’ll try deleting the app from my old iPad and see if I can open it in the new one.

Oh dear, I shouldn’t have done that! Now I can’t get back into it on my old iPad!!! I’ll be on the phone with them for the next hour now…

Swipe

Always worth keeping your driving licence photo up to date for the sake of £21.50 every 10 years, even if you aren't driving. Assuming you don't have any of the listed ailments that prohibit it, of course.

p00hsticks

Swipe said:

Always worth keeping your driving licence photo up to date for the sake of £21.50 every 10 years, even if you aren't driving. Assuming you don't have any of the listed ailments that prohibit it, of course.

WeeBaebee has already said that they are no longer fit to drive, and this will eventually happen to most people as they age. 
Once you get more elderly, I'd say it's better to pay the bit extra to keep your passport up-to-date, as there is no risk of you having to hand that back in. 

TheBanker

refluxer said:

WeeBawbee said:

PS What’s particularly frustrating about Chase is that I’ve been an active customer with them for over a year, yet they *still* can’t offer me an alternative way to identify myself and are instead seemingly happy to lose me as a customer.

I got a new phone 6 months ago and don't remember having to provide ID again to get the app up and running on it. If you're already a customer, why are they asking for this again ?

I would imagine they are asking for ID to make sure the person trying to access the app on a new device is actually the account holder. Relying on the passcode alone would not be particularly secure.

TheBanker

p00hsticks said:

Swipe said:

Always worth keeping your driving licence photo up to date for the sake of £21.50 every 10 years, even if you aren't driving. Assuming you don't have any of the listed ailments that prohibit it, of course.

WeeBaebee has already said that they are no longer fit to drive, and this will eventually happen to most people as they age. 
Once you get more elderly, I'd say it's better to pay the bit extra to keep your passport up-to-date, as there is no risk of you having to hand that back in. 

It would be easier if the UK had national ID cards, like most of Europe does. Because we don't, most people who drive use their license as a de-facto national ID card. People who can't drive might get a provisional purely as ID. But obviously that doesn't help those who cannot have a license for medical reasons. They are left paying a lot of money for a passport, even though they're never likely to leave the country. A national ID card could cost £20 for 10 years. 

It would also have made mandatory voter ID more effective but that's way off topic so I'll shut up now! 

prowla

There have been a few judgemental posts on this thread!

It may not be worded as ageism per-se, but it certainly disadvantages older folks who:

• May no longer drive or be eligible for a driving licence.
• May not travel and thus not need travel documents.
  

Swipe

p00hsticks said:

Swipe said:

Always worth keeping your driving licence photo up to date for the sake of £21.50 every 10 years, even if you aren't driving. Assuming you don't have any of the listed ailments that prohibit it, of course.

WeeBaebee has already said that they are no longer fit to drive

I'd still renew even if not fit to drive (and not driving) unless my medical records included any of the conditions on the list, but that's just me. A driving licence is easier to carry around in your wallet than a passport.

eskbanker

prowla said:

There have been a few judgemental posts on this thread!

It may not be worded as ageism per-se, but it certainly disadvantages older folks who:

• May no longer drive or be eligible for a driving licence.
• May not travel and thus not need travel documents.
  

Since the meaning is essentially the same without the word 'older', I'd question whether it can really be considered ageism, although I can see that there may be a higher percentage within 'older folks' (and disabled, etc) who fit those categories....

AmityNeon

As far as I’m concerned, passports in the UK are for providing proof of identity (and age), with 100% definitive coverage both nationally and internationally; it’s a consequence of lacking national government-issued ID cards. I accepted long ago it was never just a ‘travel’ document, whereas other documents are indeed limited in their purpose, e.g. visas, voting, disability, PASS cards, birth, medical, driving etc., all of which organisations can refuse to accept as sufficient proof of ID at their discretion.

Valid passports are the gold standard for identity (which is why their forgeries are big black market business); it is most certainly not amusing, judgemental or ageism. It costs less than £10 a year to maintain validity, so you can either accept it by budgeting accordingly, petition parliament to introduce national UK ID cards (again), or continue complaining about the sad state of British governance whilst experiencing difficulties proving your identity.

Swipe

A passport is an accepted form of ID that doesn't contain your address. Go figure.