Student Tenancy - Can he live there now he's left Uni?

km1500

even if he is asked to leave, it will require a court order which may take time to get, particularly as he is not in rent arrears.

silvercar

km1500 said:

even if he is asked to leave, it will require a court order which may take time to get, particularly as he is not in rent arrears.

Not necessarily, some contracts have clauses that you have to remain a student to enable you to remain in the property. These aren’t ASTs.

Sleepysophie

elsien said:

I meant, does the contract specify what happens if he does leave the course and is no longer a student. 

How is he planning to support himself while still living there? Because if he expects you to fund his other living expenses, there’s an easy answer. 

I know. He says he's going to get a job in a bar or something along those lines. He's applied to do a different course at Manchester in September (hasn't been accepted yet). I have told him he can't ask us for money and he is adamant that he won't.  He's gone now. I'm gutted. 

Sleepysophie

elsien said:

I meant, does the contract specify what happens if he does leave the course and is no longer a student. 

How is he planning to support himself while still living there? Because if he expects you to fund his other living expenses, there’s an easy answer. 

Oh but also - contract wise - no nothing that I can see although it does mention if there is any liability for Council Tax it needs to be paid by him. 

silvercar

If he is not working and not a student he may be eligible to claim universal credit including the housing element for help with rent.

All you can do is support him in his choices.

Signpost him to here: https://www.studentsupport.manchester.ac.uk/taking-care/

A lot of support is available, but he may need to be proactive in accessing it.

kingstreet

Sleepysophie said:

My son was dropped off his uni course - he claims due to medical needs his attendance suffered and they made the decision to ask him to leave as he could not produce evidence of his ill health...
Anyway - it is his final term and I am his guarantor so we / I have about £1400 left to pay as they frontload the rent on the first two terms. 
He is insistent that if we have to pay (of course we do) then he will stay in the flat until the end of the year.  
Its a Halls type residence. However, I am curious as I am sure you have to be a student to stay in Student Halls?
If he is no longer a student then will he be allowed to live there, even if the rent is paid? 
I don't want him to go back as its 3 hours away and I just want him to get a job. 

£1,400? Sounds like Unite Students. Is he at MMU? My daughter is there and we've just paid the last payment as well.

gwynlas

If bills are paid then he should still be able to live there until the end of the year as they would not normally have accommodation available for a  new tenant mid year. Would he be able to get a job in his chosen field without a degree? It is unlikely that he would be eligible for a further course unless he was self funding. Bar work is very good experience for all manner of customer facing roles but poorly paid so he might need to move home. Perhaps the fact that he was asked to leave will be a wake up call with adulthood comes responsibilities, perhaps he could look at apprenticeships Unless you live in the back of beyong being out should not be an issue allthough he might be a relative newbie and naive. Manchester has a very active gay scene so he should be fine socially if he choses to live there

DullGreyGuy

RO1993 said:

I work in Private Provider Student Accommodation and our terms would be that although he has dropped out of Uni, he couldn’t provide them with medical evidence and therefore has forced himself out of Uni and would be liable for the contract. We do allow medical cancellations and we request evidence of this. If he couldn’t provide it to uni, he wouldn’t provide it to us. He would need to find someone to take over the tenancy if he doesn’t want the financial burden.

Firstly that doesnt answer the Q of can he stay there as a non-student @RO1993? 

Secondly, it could very much vary by provider

Finally, the level of burden of proof may well be different between the university and the accommodation provider... the uni wasnt satisified that it was sufficient evidence, not that he has none. The accomodation provider may be happy its sufficient for their needs, esp if they dont want the alternative of a non-student with this medical condition in their property. 

kingstreet

If it is a United Students tenancy it says - It is agreed that you will be in breach of this Tenancy Agreement if 11.2.3 you cease to be a student in full time education; and, if so, we may apply for a Court Order for repossession of the Room. If the Court Order is enforced, the Tenancy Agreement will end immediately but without prejudice to any other right of action or remedy either you or we may have in respect of any breach of the other's obligations under the Tenancy Agreement.

BobT36

Sleepysophie said:

My son's illnesses were more around him constantly having tonsilitis / glandular fever etc. dare I say from partying too hard and for too long? 

Unrelated to his living situation, but I suffered from the same for 20 years and I hardly drink and never party. It can really knock you, and I'd have to miss the odd day or two of work due to the inflammation / fever, and have to take in rice pudding into work for a week for lunch as it was the only thing I could get down. 
Not being able to eat / sleep / breathe properly really doesn't leave you feeling well. I'd never got anywhere with the GP as "we don't take them out anymore", so was frequently on antibiotics (non-penicillin ones due to allergy, which had painful side effects). 

Not a problem nowdays as in my mid 20s I'd finally had enough! Demanded the GP refer me on, and cited frequent antibiotics and missing work was not good for long term. He reluctantly agreed. 
Specialist took one look, said "we'll have them out" (no argument), and booked in the surgery. 
Horrible recovery (10 days unable to eat more than 2 slices of bread), but I've never had a problem since!

Tell him to do the same. Demand referral to an ENT specialist. If they agree to take them out it may be well worth doing. I haven't had a medical issue or antibiotics for 10 years now.