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UC Overpayment

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Relative has just received an overpayment notification for Universal Credit for £6000. This is due to DWP error of not considering an ISA as capital. The claim was before ISAs were exempt. Have they any way of reducing this amount? 
Also, will this debt affect a mortgage application? 

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  • Alice_HoltAlice_Holt Forumite
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    Relative has just received an overpayment notification for Universal Credit for £6000. This is due to DWP error of not considering an ISA as capital. The claim was before ISAs were exempt. Have they any way of reducing this amount? 

         It's more likely that your relative failed to tell UC of their savings in an ISA.
         Savings in ISA's have always been included in the £6k / £16k capital thresholds.

         All UC overpayments are recoverable - enough if arising through official error. 
    Alice Holt Forest situated some 4 miles south of Farnham forms the most northerly gateway to the South Downs National Park.
  • kaMelokaMelo Forumite
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    To add, they have not been exempted going forward either. ISA's are and always have been included as capital.
  • poppy12345poppy12345 Forumite
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    Have they any way of reducing this amount? 
    Also, will this debt affect a mortgage application? 
    No, not at all. They will need to make arrangements to repay it, even if it's by installments. It won't affect any mortgage application because DWP debt doesn't affect credit history.

  • DurhamdragonDurhamdragon Forumite
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    The ISA was a help to buy and was declared, noted in journal
  • Alice_HoltAlice_Holt Forumite
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    The ISA was a help to buy and was declared, noted in journal
           There was some talk last year (by Johnson) that the government would explore if HtB and Lisa's could be disregarded from the £16k limit.  Don't think anything came of it. 

         If your relative has a screen print / proof of declaration, then I'd be contacting the DWP to ask that they exercise their discretion and not recover the over payment. Get their MP involved. 

        Under legacy benefits this would have not been recoverable as official error. HMG changed this for UC (as noted in the earlier post).   
    Alice Holt Forest situated some 4 miles south of Farnham forms the most northerly gateway to the South Downs National Park.
  • NedSNedS Forumite
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    The ISA was a help to buy and was declared, noted in journal
    In that case, the good news is there will not be a civil penalty (fine) of £50 for failing to declare it, but the overpayment is still recoverable. If the capital amount was over £16k then the whole claim would be invalid and the whole amount received would be an overpayment.
    To get the overpayment waived (or considered), you would need to demonstrate significant financial hardship, which would be difficult given substantial capital assets in an ISA (it does not matter what it was intended for). You will need to repay the overpayment so you should contact debt recovery and set up a repayment plan.

  • tomtom256tomtom256 Forumite
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    The ISA was a help to buy and was declared, noted in journal

    That isn't where you declare it, so it would have likely been ignored. It should have either been declared as savings either during initial claim declaration or via the report a change section of your account, if they went over the savings limit after the claim was made.
  • DurhamdragonDurhamdragon Forumite
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    It was declared as savings in initial claim and DWP noted this in the journal.
  • DurhamdragonDurhamdragon Forumite
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    DWP also sent a letter saying they owed them more UC as capital was no longer being taken into account in early 2020!!
  • kaMelokaMelo Forumite
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    DWP also sent a letter saying they owed them more UC as capital was no longer being taken into account in early 2020!!

    That needs sime clarification, UC never ignores capital bar specific reasons, cost of living payments for example.

    What exactly did they write?

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