MSE News: Why energy bills are rising this month despite the postponement of 20% price hikes

dealyboy

... BBC standard 

wild666

Bills are increasing by £67 per month because the EBSS has finished and people had £67 per month removed from their original DD and this has now being added to the decreased DD plus the average 7p per day increase in the SC for electric and 1p for gas as well as the small fraction of a penny increase in the kWh prices. 

bristolleedsfan

wild666 said:

Bills are increasing by £67 per month because the EBSS has finished and people had £67 per month removed from their original DD and this has now being added to the decreased DD  

That only applies to some people, majority of consumers paid the same DD as before and had up to £67 refunded back to bank accounts during period 1 October 2022 - March 2023, some consumers have never paid £67 per month either before EBSS was introduced or since it was made defunct.

MultiFuelBurner

I would suggest with the standing charge going up and price per kWh going down for the "notional average user" bills are actually reducing this month.

This all seems a bit click bait and very poor from MSE

matt_drummer

bristolleedsfan said:

wild666 said:

Bills are increasing by £67 per month because the EBSS has finished and people had £67 per month removed from their original DD and this has now being added to the decreased DD  

That only applies to some people, majority of consumers paid the same DD as before and had up to £67 refunded back to bank accounts during period 1 October 2022 - March 2023, some consumers have never paid £67 per month either before EBSS was introduced or since it was made defunct.

I'm sorry but this is the same misunderstanding.

The £400 EBSS was a reduction in energy bills for six months whether your DD was reduced or the money was paid to your bank account.

The fact that EBSS has ceased is an increase in energy bills from now on.

Any change in direct debits, either up or down, is not a change in energy bills.

pochase

The bill is not increasing by £67, it is the same as before (same usage assumed),

What changed is that the government is no longer paying £66/£67 of your bill and you have to pay all yourself.

matt_drummer

pochase said:

The bill is not increasing by £67, it is the same as before (same usage assumed),

What changed is that the government is no longer paying £66/£67 of your bill and you have to pay all yourself.

And that equates to a true increase in a consumers costs.

A change in direct debit does not.

Why am MSE expert makes out it is does is beyond me.

A change in direct debit is just a change in cash flow.

Mstty

Factually speaking the cost of energy is going to be cheaper over the next year (1st April 2023 onwards) than last year.

The lack of government assistance in council tax bands A-D £150, EBSS £400 and alternate fuels payment £200 is what the headlines will concentrate on and just waiting for the soap box to come out for the media and ML to stand on. 

The Social Tariff..............ramo that you into a frenzy in the Autumn.

Chrysalis

MattMattMattUK said:

matt_drummer said:

MSE_Helen_K said:

 and secondly, some suppliers are also reviewing direct debit levels at the same time...

How does a review of direct debit levels constitute an increase in energy bills?

It does not, but as most people do not seem to be able to differentiate between their Direct Debit and their bill, I presume that something similar has happened within the writing of the article. 

Making the article wrong doesnt help solve the problem, I hope MSE take the DD reference out of it, as the DD amount isnt a bill.

Mstty

I wonder if they actually care what we say. The poster from MSE has been tagged and not responded. The article is still there live and unedited.