Won a case but haven't received the letter from the court

Skag

sheramber said:

If you had worked on front line telephone answering you would know the reaction to 'I don't know' would not be 'hanik you '

They tell you what they have been told is the current estimate but your paperwork will be sitting in a queue, so how long it takes will depend on how many are in front of you in the queue.

Yes, it is frustrating when you are waiting for something but it is just as frustrating for the call handler who can only pass on what they have been told.

Take your complaint about the  delay to your MP.

That's a solid answer, thanks.

Skag

macman said:

Judges are most certainly not civil servants.

Huh...Are they not paid by the government?

Skag

No, you're not. If that's the attitude you go in with then I kind of see why you might be being put to the end of the queue now.

Yes they are. Excerpt:

The Judicial Office is a unique branch of the civil service, independent from the machinery which supports the Government, and dedicated to supporting the judiciary as the third arm of the state. We promote and safeguard judicial independence to maintain confidence in the rule of law.

Ok, they're not employed by the Crown, so not in that technical term, but I'm sure the court staff that processes all the back office paperwork are.

You also don't seem to know how the process works, as demonstrated by your insistence that there is a specific timeframe to issue the documents. 

I don't know, and it's not my job to know that. I go to the court to do my job, and I trust there are competent people there who should know how their job is done. I ask them and I trust their answer which sadly, on this occasion was rather misinformation.

tightauldgit

Skag said:

No, you're not. If that's the attitude you go in with then I kind of see why you might be being put to the end of the queue now.

Yes they are. Excerpt:

The Judicial Office is a unique branch of the civil service, independent from the machinery which supports the Government, and dedicated to supporting the judiciary as the third arm of the state. We promote and safeguard judicial independence to maintain confidence in the rule of law.

Ok, they're not employed by the Crown, so not in that technical term, but I'm sure the court staff that processes all the back office paperwork are.

You also don't seem to know how the process works, as demonstrated by your insistence that there is a specific timeframe to issue the documents. 

I don't know, and it's not my job to know that. I go to the court to do my job, and I trust there are competent people there who should know how their job is done. I ask them and I trust their answer which sadly, on this occasion was rather misinformation.

None of that excerpt makes you their client. Please go tell the judge that you're their client and you pay their wages and that they are incompetent. I promise to visit you in jail. 

macman

Skag said:

macman said:

Judges are most certainly not civil servants.

Huh...Are they not paid by the government?

Being 'paid by the government' doesn't make you a civil servant. MPs are not civil servants, nor indeed are those on benefits or state pensions, who are equally 'paid by the government'.
The judiciary is independent of the executive: that's the whole point of our system of government.
The 'Judicial Office' is a division of the civil service that supports the judiciary. It doesn't staff it directly.

born_again

Skag said:

macman said:

Judges are most certainly not civil servants.

Huh...Are they not paid by the government?

My wife gets paid by the Government. Does that make her a civil servant?

If only she got the CS pension along with her PIP 🤣

tightauldgit

macman said:

Skag said:

macman said:

Judges are most certainly not civil servants.

Huh...Are they not paid by the government?

Being 'paid by the government' doesn't make you a civil servant. MPs are not civil servants, nor indeed are those on benefits or state pensions, who are equally 'paid by the government'.
The judiciary is independent of the executive: that's the whole point of our system of government.
The 'Judicial Office' is a division of the civil service that supports the judiciary. It doesn't staff it directly.

And even if they were civil servants it still doesn't mean they are answerable to every Tom !!!!!! and Harry with a complaint or that the people who interact with them are their 'clients' or any of that other stuff.