State pensions around the world

Flugelhorn

Eldi_Dos said:

zagfles said:

Eldi_Dos said:

Flugelhorn said:

Eldi_Dos said:

eastcorkram said:

arnoldy said:

The UK does have co-payments - for prescriptions

Not for pensioners it doesn't. Even for working age there are so many exclusions very few <<1 in 5 pay them.

Or for anyone at all in Scotland or Wales.

That's what we voted for in Scotland and is one of the reasons we pay higher tax here.

how many people pay higher tax in Scotland? is it all tax payers?

Do not know them all, but know enough to confirm it comes up in discussions fairly regular.

There's also the Barnett formula that allocates the Scottish and Welsh 20% more public spending per head than the English.

There is feeling that that should be revised upwards as it has not kept up with the increased costs of summer heating allowance.

Doubt that would go down very well in England LOL - TBH not a good look when one region constantly gets much more public money than elsewhere. 

Eldi_Dos

Flugelhorn said:

Eldi_Dos said:

zagfles said:

Eldi_Dos said:

Flugelhorn said:

Eldi_Dos said:

eastcorkram said:

arnoldy said:

The UK does have co-payments - for prescriptions

Not for pensioners it doesn't. Even for working age there are so many exclusions very few <<1 in 5 pay them.

Or for anyone at all in Scotland or Wales.

That's what we voted for in Scotland and is one of the reasons we pay higher tax here.

how many people pay higher tax in Scotland? is it all tax payers?

Do not know them all, but know enough to confirm it comes up in discussions fairly regular.

There's also the Barnett formula that allocates the Scottish and Welsh 20% more public spending per head than the English.

There is feeling that that should be revised upwards as it has not kept up with the increased costs of summer heating allowance.

Doubt that would go down very well in England LOL - TBH not a good look when one region constantly gets much more public money than elsewhere. 

Quite agree, often think that when the eye watering figures for HS2 are bandied about.

Malthusian

Rogerrabbit777 said:
 I always wonder why the media in the uk dont like to report on how things work in other countries as it is interesting seeing how things are run but I guess the uk public dont like to be told they don't pay enough tax inorder to fund better pensions??

The media report on it quite a lot but it is virtually always along the lines of "we have the WoRsT pEnSiOnS iN eUrOpE", an analysis which relies entirely on looking at the comparing the average under "pay more in, get more out" state pensions (i.e. rich people get more taxpayers' money than poor people, a system which became untenable in the UK and was fully abolished in 2016) with the baseline of the UK's universal basic income system. Ignoring private pension provision. And refusing to compare the baseline income available to those who don't have any money to pay in. Journalists gonna journalism.

For example on radio 4 today they were talking about the french protests and the person from france put the interviewer in her place as she tried to say what are the french moaning about when every other country has a higher age rate. The man explained its not about the age you retire its more  about the years needed. He said to retire at 62 on a full pension you need to pay in for over 41 years. So that puts it into perspective. .

You need to pay in to the system since age 21??!
I'm surprised the poor French 21-year-old waifs being sent up chimneys in the forlorn hope of being able to put down their brushes at 62 haven't started some sort of revolution.

Drs said here that if you were too ill to wear a mask you were to ill to go out! Pretty simple. 

Whereas we only banned people completely from going out if they were in care homes and needed help to do so. 
Nobody expects the Spanish Covid Wardens!