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using restrictive covenants to control people and is and make us miserable.

Transferor is using restrictive covenants to control people and is and make us miserable.

In 2019 my wife and I purchased an acre of land brown land. Once a quarry now re-wilding. It is now woodland and grass. 
We got it for camping, caravaning etc.  rest, peace and tranquility for the family.

This piece of land is part of a huge chunk of land that is being subdivided and sold off. 

We were the first to buy so our contract is different to others due to the seller adding to and modifying the contracts.

Each gets worse. 

Each plot has a caravan. This was the selling point.

The seller (Transferor) is now trying to micro manage everyone who has bought from him.

He wants to have the caravans moved every six months. Wants all caravans covered in green covers so they don't spoil the view from his side of the lake and can't be seen by outsiders.
He is intimidating so many have agreed. They are miserable, can't even see out of the windows etc. 

Wants to decide if the gate or fence you choose is to his liking, the correct colour etc. Decides how best to hide you away so your not seen, what trees, bushes you should plant. 
Wants the land to be tidy and presentable so as not to put off other buyers.

Wants no public Facebook pages or photos of any part of the land either his or yours.
No groups that he is not in charge of.
He sends propaganda mail to praise those who are fitting in and omit those who are letting him down.
He acts like he is in charge of us all and we must ask for permision to do anything.

He requests urgent meetings, refuses to talk over the phone. 

Everything is verbal. He remembers it differently. 

He is paranoid.

I've told him to stop trying to intimidate us and leave us alone. I think we have a right to privacy. 

He believes the contracts let's him come on your land whenever he wants or to approach you and tell you to do things. 

Do they? Can he? 
Decide the colour, type of fence, gate? Tell us to cover the caravan? Make us move it?
Prowl our land any time he likes?

The land registry covenants are very confusing as to what they mean.
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  • Grizebeck
    Grizebeck Posts: 3,967 Forumite
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    Post up the documents first as what your saying is hard to decipher
  • user1977
    user1977 Posts: 18,819 Forumite
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    edited 10 April 2023 at 9:05PM
    Nobody can give you meaningful advice with seeing the covenants.

    Do you not have any idea what they mean? Did you not get advice about it when you bought?

    They can't be unilaterally changed after your purchase though.
  • Gehngus
    Gehngus Posts: 62 Forumite
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    I am trying to load. 

  • Gehngus
    Gehngus Posts: 62 Forumite
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    This one to do with fence etc. 
    I've put one up. Painted it black. A year ago He wants it green, I paint it green. Now he thinks it the wrong type of gate.
    This is just one of many many complaints from myself and other buyers.

  • Gehngus
    Gehngus Posts: 62 Forumite
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    edited 10 April 2023 at 9:44PM
    ProDave said:
    Sounds like no Planning Permission for caravans and he wants it all hidden so it is not found out, hence no pictures, and nothing in writing.

    What due dilligence did you do re planning permission before buying your plot?
    Took his word for it? Bought via a solicitor? 
    Honestly I don't mind taking it off if its not allowed. It's the bullying I can't stand.
    These are touring caravans and don't think you need planning permission for them
    I did enquire with local planning and they said no problem as long as I have a UK residential address.
    They are all touring caravans. 
    Apart from the sellers who has a static
  • FreeBear
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    edited 10 April 2023 at 9:30PM
    Gehngus said:
    These are touring caravans and don't think you need planning permission for them however the guy that sold us the plots has a static caravan.
    You would need to check the local council's policy. In general, permanent siting of a caravan would need planning permission. And I don't think you can get away with shuffling around on the same plot in order to avoid planning rules.
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  • Gehngus
    Gehngus Posts: 62 Forumite
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    edited 10 April 2023 at 9:54PM
    Ill do that. And remove it if need be. My main concern is if seller can treat us like this because of some flimsy covenants? 
    And. If the council says "No problem". Can he still make us move it? 
    Permanent means indefinitely in the dictionary. I'm happy to take it off when I'm finished using it. It's a huge task involving tractors. 
  • I'm a little confused by your pictures - one of them has tracked changes... 

    Are those the actual documents your solicitor checked/that were included as part of the contract of sale that you signed at point of purchase? 

    I ask because you said the seller is modifying the later contracts, but for you it's YOUR contract that matters. 
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  • user1977
    user1977 Posts: 18,819 Forumite
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    edited 10 April 2023 at 10:09PM
    Gehngus said:
    Ill do that. And remove it if need be. My main concern is if seller can treat us like this because of some flimsy covenants? 
    And. If the council says "No problem". Can he still make us move it? 
    Permanent means indefinitely in the dictionary. I'm happy to take it off when I'm finished using it. It's a huge task involving tractors. 
    If it's been there since 2019, with no intention of it leaving any time soon, that sounds "permanent" by any reasonable interpretation - so would contravene that covenant (assuming what you've posted was the final wording). Whether or not it complies with planning is irrelevant.

    Though I don't know if there's potentially an argument about acquiescence, if he was knowingly/explicitly permitting it for long enough previously.
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