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Schwarzwald said:nuhopper said:Also to say the house is very much within our affordability with us being able to hold about 100k back for refurbs. I just don't want to pay £30k over the odds. We sold for a fair price after doing a lot of work to our house so I'd like to feel we got our next house at a fair price too. I don't know if it's just London but even as a chain free buyer it feels like the vendor/ agent are always out for a few more grand and it gets to this point in the sale and I get confused, uncertain, feel ripped off and want to walk away.
but you focusing a bit too much on this aspect, 812/780k is a 4% deviation between what you agreed and what a bank in the current climate conservatively estimates.
if you really liked something in a shop that you will use for many many years to come and it costs £104 instead of £100, would you let it go?
its a matter of perspective and in this price range you shld stop focusing on the 30k aspect but focus on the % deviationOne brand of baked beans is so randomly expensive now that I don't buy them. The price has made me shop around for something equally as tasty and they've lost my business.
It's the randomness that's the problem. And I think the housing market is like that. There's no logic or sense to asking prices, and it makes people question and feel uncomfortable.
There are also people who feel uncomfortable negotiating and prefer to pay what is asked.0 -
lookstraightahead said:Schwarzwald said:nuhopper said:Also to say the house is very much within our affordability with us being able to hold about 100k back for refurbs. I just don't want to pay £30k over the odds. We sold for a fair price after doing a lot of work to our house so I'd like to feel we got our next house at a fair price too. I don't know if it's just London but even as a chain free buyer it feels like the vendor/ agent are always out for a few more grand and it gets to this point in the sale and I get confused, uncertain, feel ripped off and want to walk away.
but you focusing a bit too much on this aspect, 812/780k is a 4% deviation between what you agreed and what a bank in the current climate conservatively estimates.
if you really liked something in a shop that you will use for many many years to come and it costs £104 instead of £100, would you let it go?
its a matter of perspective and in this price range you shld stop focusing on the 30k aspect but focus on the % deviationOne brand of baked beans is so randomly expensive now that I don't buy them. The price has made me shop around for something equally as tasty and they've lost my business.
It's the randomness that's the problem. And I think the housing market is like that. There's no logic or sense to asking prices, and it makes people question and feel uncomfortable.
There are people who will always not question and buy a brand of beans they're happy with, even if they pay more for no other reason than they're happy with that brand. This might just be habit or a load of other justifications. It depends how you are wired and your experiences.
If there was just one tin of beans for 20 miles and the price was more, I'd probably buy spaghetti.
You can apply this to big purchases, jobs, holidays, cars etc.
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nuhopper said:lookstraightahead said:Schwarzwald said:nuhopper said:Also to say the house is very much within our affordability with us being able to hold about 100k back for refurbs. I just don't want to pay £30k over the odds. We sold for a fair price after doing a lot of work to our house so I'd like to feel we got our next house at a fair price too. I don't know if it's just London but even as a chain free buyer it feels like the vendor/ agent are always out for a few more grand and it gets to this point in the sale and I get confused, uncertain, feel ripped off and want to walk away.
but you focusing a bit too much on this aspect, 812/780k is a 4% deviation between what you agreed and what a bank in the current climate conservatively estimates.
if you really liked something in a shop that you will use for many many years to come and it costs £104 instead of £100, would you let it go?
its a matter of perspective and in this price range you shld stop focusing on the 30k aspect but focus on the % deviationOne brand of baked beans is so randomly expensive now that I don't buy them. The price has made me shop around for something equally as tasty and they've lost my business.
It's the randomness that's the problem. And I think the housing market is like that. There's no logic or sense to asking prices, and it makes people question and feel uncomfortable.
There are people who will always not question and buy a brand of beans they're happy with, even if they pay more for no other reason than they're happy with that brand. This might just be habit or a load of other justifications. It depends how you are wired and your experiences.
If there was just one tin of beans for 20 miles and the price was more, I'd probably buy spaghetti.
You can apply this to big purchases, jobs, holidays, cars etc.
A tin of beans is a very poor example to use. One tin of beans is exactly the same as another tin of beans a few doors down. But houses are not like that. Every house is individual. There is no "standard" asking price system because each property is so very unique.5 -
RelievedSheff said:nuhopper said:lookstraightahead said:Schwarzwald said:nuhopper said:Also to say the house is very much within our affordability with us being able to hold about 100k back for refurbs. I just don't want to pay £30k over the odds. We sold for a fair price after doing a lot of work to our house so I'd like to feel we got our next house at a fair price too. I don't know if it's just London but even as a chain free buyer it feels like the vendor/ agent are always out for a few more grand and it gets to this point in the sale and I get confused, uncertain, feel ripped off and want to walk away.
but you focusing a bit too much on this aspect, 812/780k is a 4% deviation between what you agreed and what a bank in the current climate conservatively estimates.
if you really liked something in a shop that you will use for many many years to come and it costs £104 instead of £100, would you let it go?
its a matter of perspective and in this price range you shld stop focusing on the 30k aspect but focus on the % deviationOne brand of baked beans is so randomly expensive now that I don't buy them. The price has made me shop around for something equally as tasty and they've lost my business.
It's the randomness that's the problem. And I think the housing market is like that. There's no logic or sense to asking prices, and it makes people question and feel uncomfortable.
There are people who will always not question and buy a brand of beans they're happy with, even if they pay more for no other reason than they're happy with that brand. This might just be habit or a load of other justifications. It depends how you are wired and your experiences.
If there was just one tin of beans for 20 miles and the price was more, I'd probably buy spaghetti.
You can apply this to big purchases, jobs, holidays, cars etc.
A tin of beans is a very poor example to use. One tin of beans is exactly the same as another tin of beans a few doors down. But houses are not like that. Every house is individual. There is no "standard" asking price system because each property is so very unique.Not all houses are individual. I don't think beans is a bad example, but use anything else - there's usually an alternative. There are houses everywhere you look. There might be one in a blue moon that you're desperate for that will make you happy for ever, but I would say those who miss out on a property find another one they like equally, if not more.0 -
RelievedSheff said:nuhopper said:lookstraightahead said:Schwarzwald said:nuhopper said:Also to say the house is very much within our affordability with us being able to hold about 100k back for refurbs. I just don't want to pay £30k over the odds. We sold for a fair price after doing a lot of work to our house so I'd like to feel we got our next house at a fair price too. I don't know if it's just London but even as a chain free buyer it feels like the vendor/ agent are always out for a few more grand and it gets to this point in the sale and I get confused, uncertain, feel ripped off and want to walk away.
but you focusing a bit too much on this aspect, 812/780k is a 4% deviation between what you agreed and what a bank in the current climate conservatively estimates.
if you really liked something in a shop that you will use for many many years to come and it costs £104 instead of £100, would you let it go?
its a matter of perspective and in this price range you shld stop focusing on the 30k aspect but focus on the % deviationOne brand of baked beans is so randomly expensive now that I don't buy them. The price has made me shop around for something equally as tasty and they've lost my business.
It's the randomness that's the problem. And I think the housing market is like that. There's no logic or sense to asking prices, and it makes people question and feel uncomfortable.
There are people who will always not question and buy a brand of beans they're happy with, even if they pay more for no other reason than they're happy with that brand. This might just be habit or a load of other justifications. It depends how you are wired and your experiences.
If there was just one tin of beans for 20 miles and the price was more, I'd probably buy spaghetti.
You can apply this to big purchases, jobs, holidays, cars etc.
A tin of beans is a very poor example to use. One tin of beans is exactly the same as another tin of beans a few doors down. But houses are not like that. Every house is individual. There is no "standard" asking price system because each property is so very unique.0 -
lookstraightahead said:RelievedSheff said:nuhopper said:lookstraightahead said:Schwarzwald said:nuhopper said:Also to say the house is very much within our affordability with us being able to hold about 100k back for refurbs. I just don't want to pay £30k over the odds. We sold for a fair price after doing a lot of work to our house so I'd like to feel we got our next house at a fair price too. I don't know if it's just London but even as a chain free buyer it feels like the vendor/ agent are always out for a few more grand and it gets to this point in the sale and I get confused, uncertain, feel ripped off and want to walk away.
but you focusing a bit too much on this aspect, 812/780k is a 4% deviation between what you agreed and what a bank in the current climate conservatively estimates.
if you really liked something in a shop that you will use for many many years to come and it costs £104 instead of £100, would you let it go?
its a matter of perspective and in this price range you shld stop focusing on the 30k aspect but focus on the % deviationOne brand of baked beans is so randomly expensive now that I don't buy them. The price has made me shop around for something equally as tasty and they've lost my business.
It's the randomness that's the problem. And I think the housing market is like that. There's no logic or sense to asking prices, and it makes people question and feel uncomfortable.
There are people who will always not question and buy a brand of beans they're happy with, even if they pay more for no other reason than they're happy with that brand. This might just be habit or a load of other justifications. It depends how you are wired and your experiences.
If there was just one tin of beans for 20 miles and the price was more, I'd probably buy spaghetti.
You can apply this to big purchases, jobs, holidays, cars etc.
A tin of beans is a very poor example to use. One tin of beans is exactly the same as another tin of beans a few doors down. But houses are not like that. Every house is individual. There is no "standard" asking price system because each property is so very unique.Not all houses are individual. I don't think beans is a bad example, but use anything else - there's usually an alternative. There are houses everywhere you look. There might be one in a blue moon that you're desperate for that will make you happy for ever, but I would say those who miss out on a property find another one they like equally, if not more.1 -
Sarah1Mitty2 said:RelievedSheff said:nuhopper said:lookstraightahead said:Schwarzwald said:nuhopper said:Also to say the house is very much within our affordability with us being able to hold about 100k back for refurbs. I just don't want to pay £30k over the odds. We sold for a fair price after doing a lot of work to our house so I'd like to feel we got our next house at a fair price too. I don't know if it's just London but even as a chain free buyer it feels like the vendor/ agent are always out for a few more grand and it gets to this point in the sale and I get confused, uncertain, feel ripped off and want to walk away.
but you focusing a bit too much on this aspect, 812/780k is a 4% deviation between what you agreed and what a bank in the current climate conservatively estimates.
if you really liked something in a shop that you will use for many many years to come and it costs £104 instead of £100, would you let it go?
its a matter of perspective and in this price range you shld stop focusing on the 30k aspect but focus on the % deviationOne brand of baked beans is so randomly expensive now that I don't buy them. The price has made me shop around for something equally as tasty and they've lost my business.
It's the randomness that's the problem. And I think the housing market is like that. There's no logic or sense to asking prices, and it makes people question and feel uncomfortable.
There are people who will always not question and buy a brand of beans they're happy with, even if they pay more for no other reason than they're happy with that brand. This might just be habit or a load of other justifications. It depends how you are wired and your experiences.
If there was just one tin of beans for 20 miles and the price was more, I'd probably buy spaghetti.
You can apply this to big purchases, jobs, holidays, cars etc.
A tin of beans is a very poor example to use. One tin of beans is exactly the same as another tin of beans a few doors down. But houses are not like that. Every house is individual. There is no "standard" asking price system because each property is so very unique.I think you and @lookstraightahead are very wrong on this, there are relatively few genuinely identical properties in the UK and an even smaller percentage are actually available to buy at any one time. Buying a home is nothing like buying a tin of beans.Regardless, the OP is not interested in the majority of housing in the UK, they're interested in an £800k property in a particular part of London and as they say "other houses around have sold for much more but have been modernised and extended" so finding something else is much more difficult than you are claiming...
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MobileSaver said:Sarah1Mitty2 said:RelievedSheff said:nuhopper said:lookstraightahead said:Schwarzwald said:nuhopper said:Also to say the house is very much within our affordability with us being able to hold about 100k back for refurbs. I just don't want to pay £30k over the odds. We sold for a fair price after doing a lot of work to our house so I'd like to feel we got our next house at a fair price too. I don't know if it's just London but even as a chain free buyer it feels like the vendor/ agent are always out for a few more grand and it gets to this point in the sale and I get confused, uncertain, feel ripped off and want to walk away.
but you focusing a bit too much on this aspect, 812/780k is a 4% deviation between what you agreed and what a bank in the current climate conservatively estimates.
if you really liked something in a shop that you will use for many many years to come and it costs £104 instead of £100, would you let it go?
its a matter of perspective and in this price range you shld stop focusing on the 30k aspect but focus on the % deviationOne brand of baked beans is so randomly expensive now that I don't buy them. The price has made me shop around for something equally as tasty and they've lost my business.
It's the randomness that's the problem. And I think the housing market is like that. There's no logic or sense to asking prices, and it makes people question and feel uncomfortable.
There are people who will always not question and buy a brand of beans they're happy with, even if they pay more for no other reason than they're happy with that brand. This might just be habit or a load of other justifications. It depends how you are wired and your experiences.
If there was just one tin of beans for 20 miles and the price was more, I'd probably buy spaghetti.
You can apply this to big purchases, jobs, holidays, cars etc.
A tin of beans is a very poor example to use. One tin of beans is exactly the same as another tin of beans a few doors down. But houses are not like that. Every house is individual. There is no "standard" asking price system because each property is so very unique.I think you and @lookstraightahead are very wrong on this, there are relatively few genuinely identical properties in the UK and an even smaller percentage are actually available to buy at any one time. Buying a home is nothing like buying a tin of beans.Regardless, the OP is not interested in the majority of housing in the UK, they're interested in an £800k property in a particular part of London and as they say "other houses around have sold for much more but have been modernised and extended" so finding something else is much more difficult than you are claiming...Nothing is foolproof to a talented fool.1 -
Sunsaru said:MobileSaver said:Sarah1Mitty2 said:RelievedSheff said:nuhopper said:lookstraightahead said:Schwarzwald said:nuhopper said:Also to say the house is very much within our affordability with us being able to hold about 100k back for refurbs. I just don't want to pay £30k over the odds. We sold for a fair price after doing a lot of work to our house so I'd like to feel we got our next house at a fair price too. I don't know if it's just London but even as a chain free buyer it feels like the vendor/ agent are always out for a few more grand and it gets to this point in the sale and I get confused, uncertain, feel ripped off and want to walk away.
but you focusing a bit too much on this aspect, 812/780k is a 4% deviation between what you agreed and what a bank in the current climate conservatively estimates.
if you really liked something in a shop that you will use for many many years to come and it costs £104 instead of £100, would you let it go?
its a matter of perspective and in this price range you shld stop focusing on the 30k aspect but focus on the % deviationOne brand of baked beans is so randomly expensive now that I don't buy them. The price has made me shop around for something equally as tasty and they've lost my business.
It's the randomness that's the problem. And I think the housing market is like that. There's no logic or sense to asking prices, and it makes people question and feel uncomfortable.
There are people who will always not question and buy a brand of beans they're happy with, even if they pay more for no other reason than they're happy with that brand. This might just be habit or a load of other justifications. It depends how you are wired and your experiences.
If there was just one tin of beans for 20 miles and the price was more, I'd probably buy spaghetti.
You can apply this to big purchases, jobs, holidays, cars etc.
A tin of beans is a very poor example to use. One tin of beans is exactly the same as another tin of beans a few doors down. But houses are not like that. Every house is individual. There is no "standard" asking price system because each property is so very unique.I think you and @lookstraightahead are very wrong on this, there are relatively few genuinely identical properties in the UK and an even smaller percentage are actually available to buy at any one time. Buying a home is nothing like buying a tin of beans.Regardless, the OP is not interested in the majority of housing in the UK, they're interested in an £800k property in a particular part of London and as they say "other houses around have sold for much more but have been modernised and extended" so finding something else is much more difficult than you are claiming...
They will all be different. They may have started out as identical properties when they were built but a succession of owners will have each put their own mark and stamp on them. Most will be remodelled inside, have had extensions, kitchens and bathrooms moved etc.
Even two one year old properties that were "out of the box" very similar (they wouldn't be exactly the same as they are on different plots) would be completely different after their first owners have lived with them for 12 months.2 -
RelievedSheff said:Sunsaru said:MobileSaver said:Sarah1Mitty2 said:RelievedSheff said:nuhopper said:lookstraightahead said:Schwarzwald said:nuhopper said:Also to say the house is very much within our affordability with us being able to hold about 100k back for refurbs. I just don't want to pay £30k over the odds. We sold for a fair price after doing a lot of work to our house so I'd like to feel we got our next house at a fair price too. I don't know if it's just London but even as a chain free buyer it feels like the vendor/ agent are always out for a few more grand and it gets to this point in the sale and I get confused, uncertain, feel ripped off and want to walk away.
but you focusing a bit too much on this aspect, 812/780k is a 4% deviation between what you agreed and what a bank in the current climate conservatively estimates.
if you really liked something in a shop that you will use for many many years to come and it costs £104 instead of £100, would you let it go?
its a matter of perspective and in this price range you shld stop focusing on the 30k aspect but focus on the % deviationOne brand of baked beans is so randomly expensive now that I don't buy them. The price has made me shop around for something equally as tasty and they've lost my business.
It's the randomness that's the problem. And I think the housing market is like that. There's no logic or sense to asking prices, and it makes people question and feel uncomfortable.
There are people who will always not question and buy a brand of beans they're happy with, even if they pay more for no other reason than they're happy with that brand. This might just be habit or a load of other justifications. It depends how you are wired and your experiences.
If there was just one tin of beans for 20 miles and the price was more, I'd probably buy spaghetti.
You can apply this to big purchases, jobs, holidays, cars etc.
A tin of beans is a very poor example to use. One tin of beans is exactly the same as another tin of beans a few doors down. But houses are not like that. Every house is individual. There is no "standard" asking price system because each property is so very unique.I think you and @lookstraightahead are very wrong on this, there are relatively few genuinely identical properties in the UK and an even smaller percentage are actually available to buy at any one time. Buying a home is nothing like buying a tin of beans.Regardless, the OP is not interested in the majority of housing in the UK, they're interested in an £800k property in a particular part of London and as they say "other houses around have sold for much more but have been modernised and extended" so finding something else is much more difficult than you are claiming...
They will all be different. They may have started out as identical properties when they were built but a succession of owners will have each put their own mark and stamp on them. Most will be remodelled inside, have had extensions, kitchens and bathrooms moved etc.
Even two one year old properties that were "out of the box" very similar (they wouldn't be exactly the same as they are on different plots) would be completely different after their first owners have lived with them for 12 months.
I get your point to an extent and extensions etc can make a difference but if you can walk out of one house and walk into another and know exactly where bedroom 2 or the bathroom then that to me is pretty much identical.
I'm happy to agree to disagree though.Nothing is foolproof to a talented fool.0
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