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Concrete delivery lorry has dented our block pave driveway - how to get it restored

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  • maydin
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    As it the pave has been already disrupted, I do not believe that you will have any further issues in the future. You can try to remove the pave and put some sand and then try to put the paves back again, but is it worth the hassle is the question? 
  • FFHillbilly
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    the chances of that being caused by the wagon *  and the only 2 soft spots on the entire drive is very unlikely. it's probably all bedded on some soft rubbish, so any repairs are likely to be a waste of time as the rest of it is poorly done
  • iwant2asave
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    edited 10 April 2023 at 11:33AM
    the chances of that being caused by the wagon *  and the only 2 soft spots on the entire drive is very unlikely. it's probably all bedded on some soft rubbish, so any repairs are likely to be a waste of time as the rest of it is poorly done
    Kindly explain further... The drive was done over 10 years ago and all other parts are perfectly fine including the parts where my car is parked...the part where the lorry went is the only parts with this issue...also the lorry tyre tracks in the picture stop exactly where the issue is....maybe the one on the right hand side could have been partly an issue before and made worse when the lorry went over the left hand bit....

    Saying it was poorly done is indicating that the drive should be capable of supporting huge truck weight which I think it is not.
  • bris
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    Saying it was poorly done is indicating that the drive should be capable of supporting huge truck weight which I think it is not.
    Yes it was poorly done, my drive gets trucks all the time, its a big drive and hasn't sagged ever. Its all about the the base layer and how much type 1 one goes in.

    The cowboys barely scrape the surface to save money and maximise profits, the experts make sure its deep enough to handle what a normal road can handle.

    the fact it was done ten years ago and can handle your car doesn't really mean much when it fails at its first real test.


  • iwant2asave
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    bris said:


    Saying it was poorly done is indicating that the drive should be capable of supporting huge truck weight which I think it is not.
    Yes it was poorly done, my drive gets trucks all the time, its a big drive and hasn't sagged ever. Its all about the the base layer and how much type 1 one goes in.

    The cowboys barely scrape the surface to save money and maximise profits, the experts make sure its deep enough to handle what a normal road can handle.

    the fact it was done ten years ago and can handle your car doesn't really mean much when it fails at its first real test.


    My drive was not done by cowboys and it was deep enough to handle what a normal driveway should handle, which is not a concrete delivery truck....also block paving is nothing like a normal road.
  • Postik
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    bris said:


    Saying it was poorly done is indicating that the drive should be capable of supporting huge truck weight which I think it is not.
    Yes it was poorly done, my drive gets trucks all the time, its a big drive and hasn't sagged ever. Its all about the the base layer and how much type 1 one goes in.

    The cowboys barely scrape the surface to save money and maximise profits, the experts make sure its deep enough to handle what a normal road can handle.

    the fact it was done ten years ago and can handle your car doesn't really mean much when it fails at its first real test.


    My drive was not done by cowboys and it was deep enough to handle what a normal driveway should handle, which is not a concrete delivery truck....also block paving is nothing like a normal road.

    To be fair, some public roads are made up of sections of block paving, and they don't sink when heavy trucks drive over them.  I think saying it was poorly done is perhaps a stretch because you wouldn't expect a residential driveway to have a 10 ton truck drive on to it.  I bet there are a lot of driveways, block paved, tarmaced and otherwise, that would be damaged by that.  But I think if the sub-base was thick enough and compacted well enough it would be capable of handling virtually any weight.
  • Eldi_Dos
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    edited 11 April 2023 at 2:50PM
    @iwant2asave

    Have you been to speak to the main contract holder across the road yet, the longer you leave it the harder it will be to get fixed.

    Keep a eye on any services that run under where compaction has occurred, they should all be ok but any at shallow depth could be effected.


    Edit:
     The distance between the two areas of compaction would seem narrower than I would expect if caused by concrete lorry.


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  • FreeBear
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    Postik said:
    bris said:


    Saying it was poorly done is indicating that the drive should be capable of supporting huge truck weight which I think it is not.
    Yes it was poorly done, my drive gets trucks all the time, its a big drive and hasn't sagged ever. Its all about the the base layer and how much type 1 one goes in.

    The cowboys barely scrape the surface to save money and maximise profits, the experts make sure its deep enough to handle what a normal road can handle.

    the fact it was done ten years ago and can handle your car doesn't really mean much when it fails at its first real test.


    My drive was not done by cowboys and it was deep enough to handle what a normal driveway should handle, which is not a concrete delivery truck....also block paving is nothing like a normal road.

    To be fair, some public roads are made up of sections of block paving, and they don't sink when heavy trucks drive over them.  I think saying it was poorly done is perhaps a stretch because you wouldn't expect a residential driveway to have a 10 ton truck drive on to it.  I bet there are a lot of driveways, block paved, tarmaced and otherwise, that would be damaged by that.  But I think if the sub-base was thick enough and compacted well enough it would be capable of handling virtually any weight.
    I can point you to a few roads round here where buses have caused sections of block paving to rut..
    Your typical domestic driveway will have between 100mm (cheap job) to 150mm (better job) of hardcore - This is fine for the types of loads & usage that domestic driveways get. For areas subjected to heavier vehicles, 200mm or even 300mm of hardcore would be suitable, but then you are looking at spending quite a bit more money.

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  • iwant2asave
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    edited 11 April 2023 at 6:35PM
    Eldi_Dos said:
    @iwant2asave

    Have you been to speak to the main contract holder across the road yet, the longer you leave it the harder it will be to get fixed.

    Keep a eye on any services that run under where compaction has occurred, they should all be ok but any at shallow depth could be effected.


    Edit:
     The distance between the two areas of compaction would seem narrower than I would expect if caused by concrete lorry.


    Yes I spoke to the contractor a few days ago and he asked if I had any CCTV and I said no, then he said I should contact the delivery company.

    I asked if he could contact them which he agreed to do...haven't followed up with them yet.  He was there guiding the truck etc...so I think he knows it went on our drive but he's not admitting it either way.  (As per original post, I definitely saw it coming on our drive)

    The right hand side is close to the water pipes....possibly that side was partly an issue before and made worse by the truck.  Should I inform the water company to check if it was affected.  I just checked the water meter and it doesn't seem to be running when the taps are off so at least it doesn't appear to be leaking, not sure what else I can check.

    The truck went back and forth several times as it was a tight spot...perhaps it only went over the bits on the left hand side with the tyre marks as if it went over the right hand side maybe that would have had tyre marks too.

    Thing is I don't want to make a big deal of it and could do without the stress as I have a lot of other things going on, just want it sorted in a safe and secure way if it's not too big a job to sort.
  • Eldi_Dos
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    @iwant2asave
    Do not get stressed about it as it is a easy fix.

    Go back to the main contract owner and explain that their suppliers vehicle entered your drive and damage occurred while doing so,do not get distracted with anything to do with contacting concrete company or driver, that is their responsibility,and they will know already.If they are not forthcoming ask for their insurance details and contact them.

    Do not get distracted over whether the block paviours are suitable for a heavy vehicle as that is irrelevant, if it was a grass verge that got damaged they would still liable.


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