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Private Pensions and Benefits

GordonStar21
GordonStar21 Posts: 1 Newbie
edited 30 March 2023 at 2:43PM in Benefits & tax credits
Am disabled unable to work person. Survive on PIP £272 p/m and Universal Credit £700 p/m with bills being £600 p/m not incl  food shopping. I have a Private Pension value £85600 and was gonna take the 25% tax free but then realised I could lose Universal Credit as a whole. Or if i withdraw £6k-16k U/C could be halved or reduced  severely. Am I just better off just taking £5500 if so would i be taxed etc .. is it worth taking anything at all

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  • Marcon
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    Am disabled unable to work person. Survive on PIP £272 p/m and Universal Credit £700 p/m with bills being £600 p/m not incl  food shopping. I have a Private Pension value £85600 and was gonna take the 25% tax free but then realised I could lose Universal Credit as a whole. Or if i withdraw £6k-16k U/C could be halved or reduced  severely. Am I just better off just taking £5500 if so would i be taxed etc .. is it worth taking anything at all
    I don't think the pensions board is the best place for your question - probably the benefits board? https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/categories/benefits-tax-credits

    Alternatively, one of the advice agencies with specialist benefit knowledge should be able to help. Try https://www.entitledto.co.uk
    Googling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!  
  • NedS
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    edited 30 March 2023 at 1:26PM
    If you take a one off lump sum, it will be treated as capital under UC, and as you identify if you have capital between £6-16k there is a reduction in your UC and the claim would close completely for capital over £16k. PIP is not means tested so any pension withdraws would not affect PIP.
    The tax situation would depend how you withdraw the money. If you have a pot of £85,600, you can take 25% of that tax free (£21,400) assuming you have not previously made any withdraws. So you could crystallise the whole pot and take £21,400 tax free. Or you could crystallise a smaller amount and withdraw some or all of that. I would suggest you speak with your pension provider and/or PensionWise who will explain your options to you in detail. PensionWise will also be able to explain any effects on means-tested benefits to you.

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    We've moved the thread to the Benefits board.
    Official MSE Forum Team member. Please use the 'report' button to alert us to problem posts, or email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com
  • Spoonie_Turtle
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    Have we not just had a thread like this with similar amounts?
  • HillStreetBlues
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    edited 30 March 2023 at 3:54PM
    There is a deduction of £4.35 per month for every (or part) of £250 over £6k
    For example if you had £14,000 there would be he deduction  £139.20 per month  (£14k-£6k =£8k  so  32 lots of £4.35)


    Over 16K as NedS stated you lose UC
    Let's Be Careful Out There
  • NedS
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    Have we not just had a thread like this with similar amounts?
    Yes, same poster (with different user names) is my guess.

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  • poppy12345
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    There's thread here that was posted yesterday with the same circumstances as yourself. (same person?) Have a read through it because the advice will be the same. https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6436230/25-tax-free-pension-lump-sum-and-universal-credit-lcwra/p1

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