What is the average bill amount for a 1 bed flat?

MikeyPGT

One more thing to be wary of - your landlord will likely require a deposit and/or rent in advance.  Make sure you factor that in as an upfront cost ...

macman

matt_drummer said:

macman said:

matt_drummer said:

Can you sell mobile telephones that you are still paying for?

I assume that they are under contract and belong to the phone company until paid for in full?

matt_drummer said:

Can you sell mobile telephones that you are still paying for?

I assume that they are under contract and belong to the phone company until paid for in full?

No, they are yours to do as you wish with from day one. What you are paying for is the airtime. The supplier doesn't care what you do with the handset, as long as the monthly payment is made.

There is a big difference between a sim only contract and a contract with a phone with the same usage included.

Seeing as high end mobile telephones cost hundreds if not more than a thousand pounds I would have thought a large amount of the contract was for the cost of the phone.

I am pretty sure I can't sell my phone or change network until the contact comes to the end of its term or I pay them a lot of money.

You can't change network, because you are in a minimum term contract of typically 2 or 3 years, nor did I suggest that you could. But the provider neither knows nor cares what you do with the handset, as long as you continue to pay for the airtime contract on the SIM. What handset you put that SIM in is of no interest to them. 
What do you think happens if the phone is lost/stolen/damaged beyond repair? You replace it with a SIM-free one and the contract continues with the replacement SIM. The contract is not tied to the handset, whose cost is recovered via the monthly payment.

matt_drummer

macman said:

matt_drummer said:

macman said:

matt_drummer said:

Can you sell mobile telephones that you are still paying for?

I assume that they are under contract and belong to the phone company until paid for in full?

matt_drummer said:

Can you sell mobile telephones that you are still paying for?

I assume that they are under contract and belong to the phone company until paid for in full?

No, they are yours to do as you wish with from day one. What you are paying for is the airtime. The supplier doesn't care what you do with the handset, as long as the monthly payment is made.

There is a big difference between a sim only contract and a contract with a phone with the same usage included.

Seeing as high end mobile telephones cost hundreds if not more than a thousand pounds I would have thought a large amount of the contract was for the cost of the phone.

I am pretty sure I can't sell my phone or change network until the contact comes to the end of its term or I pay them a lot of money.

You can't change network, because you are in a minimum term contract of typically 2 or 3 years, nor did I suggest that you could. But the provider neither knows nor cares what you do with the handset, as long as you continue to pay for the airtime contract on the SIM. What handset you put that SIM in is of no interest to them. 
What do you think happens if the phone is lost/stolen/damaged beyond repair? You replace it with a SIM-free one and the contract continues with the replacement SIM. The contract is not tied to the handset, whose cost is recovered via the monthly payment.

I get all of that.

But I am looking at it from the other side, will the person I sell my phone to actually be able to use it with their own sim card?

Maybe my phone would be locked making it useless to anybody without my sim card?

Mstty

Have a read here if you have never looked into SIM locked network phones and how to unlock them and the rules.

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/mobiles/unlock-mobile-phone/

Jonboy_1984

macman said:

The problem with your question is that we don't know how the proposed property is heated and hot watered. If it's main gas or E7 with NSH's and an immersion heater, the costs are similar. If it's all-electric and convectors, then it could be nearly 3 times more expensive.
2 expensive mobiles? So  why not sell the handsets and use the payment to subsidise the rest of your minimum term contract? Then switch to Plusnet SIM only or similar for about £6 per month. You can get a perfectly adequate budget smartphone for less than £100.

I am moving from Plusnet to Smarty because they have a couple of unsupported features, such as not allowing you to text to short codes. This is becoming more of a problem with the 2FA things being bought in by banks etc. 

With a recent high value payment we arranged it in branch and then the cashier said “you may get a text later” and we thought no more of it. We later got a text from a 5 digit sort code after the branch has closed for the day, saying “is this genuine please reply yes or no”, only to find we couldn’t….the first line of telephone banking didn’t recognise the text content, and referred us to the fraud team who took over half an hour to find the relevant department and then couldn’t speak to anyone….

They also don’t support WiFi calling and a few other minor bits.


Going back to the original post our last one bed all electric flat (45sqm energy rating D) used around 6000kwh per year. 

This was based on hot water on economy 7 plus around an hours boost roughly every other day. Heating via economy7 dumb night storage heaters plus a boost from a small fan heater for around an hour to top it up.
Cooking/clothes washing etc for two of which one was full time WFH.

wild666

kpols said:

Hi all, 

I am currently in a really crap situation which I'm going to have to leave. I live with someone who is an abusive alcoholic and its really ruining my life, and distracting me away from achieving the things that I need to do. 

I haven't lived alone in the last 10 years, and with inflation I have no real idea of what anything costs anymore. 

If anyone who lives in a 1 bed flat could comment how much their gas, electric, water etc is that would be amazing

I can work out what council tax is, broadband, phone bill, insurances etc easily. But there doesn't seem to be much help available online (or at least I can't find it) to suggest how much normal utilities are.

I need this information so I can make some plans 

Thank you, 

Kpols

There is no average amount for usage in a property it all depends on how many kWh's of electric and gas is used. With electric turning off items left in standby mode will see some savings, with gas the savings can be made by lowering the temperature of the thermostat and the temperature of the water running through the pipes to heat the radiators. 
In my 2 bedroom flat I have the heating water temperature set at 39 degrees and the thermostat set at 16 degrees plus I've lowered the temperature of the hot water for the taps to 40 degrees. 
Living alone get a water meter fitted and use water sparingly, I use less than 12,000 litres per year, that's if there isn't one already installed. Don't run taps at full on that's wasting water, even if you want hot water slowly increase the water speed until the light comes on  on the boiler will waste less water than running the tap at maximum until the water get hot.
25% discount is available to all single people and if on benefits, you could be paying around 20% to 30% of the single persons full CT bill. Same for BB get a supplier that has a social tariff rather than pay the full price.
Insurance will be the same  whether there are one, two or more people living at the address and prices will vary depending on the amount of cover you want, I have £50,000 of contents cover for £36 per year, which is due for renewal in about two weeks.