DCB Legal / UKPC County Court Claim Received

fryster

Good Morning, 

Received a county court claim from DCB Legal on behalf of UKPC on 23 March 2023. It relates to two parking charges received last year. I used the services of Tony Taylor on a well known facebook group to appeal the charges at the POPLA stage but unfortunately these failed. Have posted up the particulars of claim below, will acknowledge the claim shortly and begin working on my defence. The registered keeper was not driving the vehicle at the time. Many thanks.

Issue Date: 20 Mar 2023

Defendant

Particulars of Claim

1. The Defendant(D) is indebted to the Claimant(C) for a Parking Charge(s) issued to vehicle REDACTED at Horizon Retail Park solarton Road,farnborough,gu14 7qj, Horizon Retail Park,solarton Road,farnborough,gu14 7qj. 2. The PCN details are 23/12/2021 REDACTED,24/12/2021,REDACTED. 3.The PCN(s) was issued on private land owned or managed by C. The vehicle was parked in breach of the Terms on Cs signs (the Contract), thus incurring the PCN(s).4. The driver agreed to pay within 28 days but did not. D is liable as the driver or keeper. Despite requests, the PCN(s) is outstanding. The Contract entitles C to damages. AND THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS 1. £340 being the total of the PCN(s) and damages. 2. Interest at a rate of 8% per annum pursuant to s.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 from the date hereof at a daily rate of £0.04 until judgment or sooner payment. 3. Costs and court fees

The Claimant believes that the facts stated in this clai are true and I am duly authorised by the claimant to sign this statement

Signed

Yasmin Mia

(Claimant's Legal Representative)

B789

Who is Tony Taylor and what is his speciality? Was the PCN PoFA compliant? Did Tony Taylor advise about identifying the driver?

You now need to read, re-read and read again the Newbies/FAQ thread, second post in particular which covers your situation. @KeithP will be along soon to let you know the important deadlines for filing your AoS and Defence.

As this is just one more of the farce duo UKPC/DCB Legal, you should have a read of this thread to see the anticipated outcome of this scam:

DCB LEGAL RECORD OF PRIVATE PARKING COURT CLAIM DISCONTINUATIONS

KeithP

fryster said:

Received a county court claim from DCB Legal on behalf of UKPC on 23 March 2023.
Issue Date: 20 Mar 2023

With a Claim Issue Date of 20th March, you have until Tuesday 11th April to file an Acknowledgment of Service.  Do not file an Acknowledgment of Service before 25th March, but otherwise there is nothing to be gained by delaying it. 

To file an Acknowledgment of Service, follow the guidance in the Dropbox file linked from the second post in the NEWBIES thread.

Having filed an Acknowledgment of Service in a timely manner, you have until 4pm on Monday 24th April 2023 to file your Defence.

That's over four weeks away. Plenty of time to produce a Defence, but please don't leave it to the last minute.

To create a Defence, and then file a Defence by email, look again at the second post on the NEWBIES thread - immediately following where you found the Acknowledgment of Service guidance.

Don't miss the deadline for filing an Acknowledgment of Service, nor that for filing a Defence.

Do not try and file a Defence via the MoneyClaimOnline website. Once an Acknowledgment of Service has been filed, the MCOL website should be treated as 'read only'.

patient_dream

B789 said:

Who is Tony Taylor and what is his speciality? Was the PCN PoFA compliant? Did Tony Taylor advise about identifying the driver?

His website

https://www.fightyourparkingticket.co.uk/

Difference is, he charges and we don't

B789

So he won't deal with IPC members?

Coupon-mad

And the difference is also that he is an ex UKPC employee and we'd say no-one should even give his 'appeals' a second glance, let alone use his words and pay him money!  My goodness.  Tony Taylor, thought he'd stopped doing this years ago.  By all accounts, he never could get his head around IPC cases nor court claims.

Get yourself off his Facebook group.

Anyway, just copy and adapt the recent defence posted by @Johny86 and just change paragraph 3.

Easy peasy. DCB Legal will discontinue.

fryster

B789 said:

Who is Tony Taylor and what is his speciality? Was the PCN PoFA compliant? Did Tony Taylor advise about identifying the driver?

You now need to read, re-read and read again the Newbies/FAQ thread, second post in particular which covers your situation. @KeithP will be along soon to let you know the important deadlines for filing your AoS and Defence.

As this is just one more of the farce duo UKPC/DCB Legal, you should have a read of this thread to see the anticipated outcome of this scam:

DCB LEGAL RECORD OF PRIVATE PARKING COURT CLAIM DISCONTINUATIONS

Thanks for the replies, unfortunately they must have been PoFA compliant, driver has not been identified at any point. Unsure what to put in the defence as the driver was simply out last minute Christmas shopping, parked in what was/is a free car park and didn't realise that there was a time limit of 2 hours. The overstays were for 25 minutes and 34 minutes. I've flicked through the forum and the linked thread and hope that they will fold before the actual court date but unsure what to put in the defence as to why the driver overstayed. The driver has previously purchased a kitchen and a sofa from 2 shops that reside in the car park amounting to well over 10k, although this probably isn't relevant to this alleged parking misdemeanour. However, I can't see how overstaying in the car park has cost anybody any money as this car park is never filled to capacity and this was simply an oversight by the driver who was spending money within the town of Farnborough. They could possibly argue that the signage on entry to the car park is not adequate, I will get hold of an image of the signage asap.

B789

Of course you argue signage. That's just one of the elements of your defence.

Forget about the cost of staying in the car park. It is not relevant. Did the driver know they were overstaying or did they only find out about the time limit after they received the PCN. If so, how come they didn't know about the time limit? Maybe because it was not obvious which means there is a problem with the signs. Are they prominent and obvious? Are the lit if it was dark? So on and so on.

patient_dream

As said by B789, it is the signs that matter, especially the entrance sign.  All UKPC signs are unreadable needing binos to read them and posibly a step ladder.

Send UKPC a SAR to see what signs they send you
Try and take your own pictures and post them on here

DCBL
They have added a fake amount to the £100 and say their client is entitled to damages. UKPC will not own the car parking site so they are not entitled to damages

This is a copy and paste roboclaim from DCBL signed by the usual Yasmin Mia.  What Yasmin has signed is a statement of truth and the so called fake add-on and damages are not true. You are fully entitled to ask DCBL ABOUT THE FAKE ADD-ON and who would benefit from the damages claimed.

Never seen DCBL reply to this and a non reply would disturb a judge. So would the statement of truth which could well lead Yasmin Mia being in contempt of court .... that is serious

Forget about POPLA as they have become friends of the parking companies. A BPA FAILED INVENTION

As Coupon-mad has said, this will end up being discontinued as UKPC cases are rubbish and DCBL will not want a spanking in court where you can also claim your costs

Before they discontinue, they will try their best to make you pay before the actual court case ....... Do not be tempted

You are now in a stupid game so follow what is said on this forum and it's all free

Coupon-mad

He's not "good" at what he does, IMHO.  From cases we have seen (including yours) his advice can be hopeless and I for one am uncomfortable with that FB Group being linked here.  No newbie should be going there.

Please remove the link as it takes people to a questionable and paid service by an erstwhile clamper and UKPC employee!

Please forget that stupid FB Group.

And your defence para 3 is NOT going to be talking about overstaying because the POC do not say anything about the allegation.

Which you will know, once you hop off this thread and instead read Johny's defence (linked on his posting profile) that I already linked you to.

fryster

Coupon-mad said:

He's not "good" at what he does, IMHO.  From cases we have seen (including yours) his advice can be hopeless and I for one am uncomfortable with that FB Group being linked here.  No newbie should be going there.

Please remove the link as it takes people to a questionable and paid service by an erstwhile clamper and UKPC employee!

Please forget that stupid FB Group.

And your defence para 3 is NOT going to be talking about overstaying because the POC do not say anything about the allegation.

Which you will know, once you hop off this thread and instead read Johny's defence (linked on his posting profile) that I already linked you to.

I've deleted my link and will read Johny's defence. Thanks for the guidance.