Crohns type flare up/Speeding ticket

Froggitt2

I just received a speeding notification with the location and date. I was having "bowel issues" around that date, and I was trying to get off the motorway ASAP and get home to use the "facilities". 

The speeding notice says "mitigating circumstances won't be accepted for....I needed the toilet". Is that a blanket "tough" including disability related toilet speeding?

Keep_pedalling

Is this a separate speeding offence to the one where you don’t remember actually speeding?

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6431481/speeding-lease-car#latest

The police cannot let you off for mitigating circumstances, you would have to take the risk of opting to go to court where you could end up with a bigger fine if it goes against you. 

poppy12345

With all due respect, i can't imagine for a minute that this will help you. Speeding, is speeding.

diystarter7

Froggitt2 said:

I just received a speeding notification with the location and date. I was having "bowel issues" around that date, and I was trying to get off the motorway ASAP and get home to use the "facilities". 

The speeding notice says "mitigating circumstances won't be accepted for....I needed the toilet". Is that a blanket "tough" including disability related toilet speeding?

Hi


As far as I'm aware, speeding is just that, speeding.

I can't see a way out but if you do find oe, please share for all to learn from

Thanks

Froggitt2

poppy12345 said:

With all due respect, i can't imagine for a minute that this will help you. Speeding, is speeding.

OK. I actually shat myself badly in my car seat once. Had to buy one of those "lemon bombs" that hotels use when someone smokes in the room. Didn't want the same to happen again, hence the speeding (70 in a 60 that is usually 70....no other cars in the evidence photo so no danger to anyone and 5 minutes from the junction) trying to get home before the inevitable evacuation occurs. Fortunately I made it home this time. I guess I'll take the fine/points or course if offered to me.

TonyMMM

This type of defence has been used successfully in speeding cases, usually when presented by a very highly paid lawyer.

You will need to decline any offer of a speed awareness course, or fixed penalty, and elect to have the case heard as a not guilty hearing in court. You will need medical evidence, such as a doctor's statement, to support your case.

If you lose and are convicted of speeding you would get the same three points as a fixed penalty, but the fine will be income related and there will be significant costs (£600+) and charges added.

diystarter7

TonyMMM said:

This type of defence has been used successfully in speeding cases, usually when presented by a very highly paid lawyer.

You will need to decline any offer of a speed awareness course, or fixed penalty, and elect to have the case heard as a not guilty hearing in court. You will need medical evidence, such as a doctor's statement, to support your case.

If you lose and are convicted of speeding you would get the same three points as a fixed penalty, but the fine will be income related and there will be significant costs (£600+) and charges added.

Hi

For this type of scenario how much o average would your "highly paid.." cost, please?

FYI, I was thinking a few k's?

Thnaks

MouldyOldDough

diystarter7 said:

TonyMMM said:

This type of defence has been used successfully in speeding cases, usually when presented by a very highly paid lawyer.

You will need to decline any offer of a speed awareness course, or fixed penalty, and elect to have the case heard as a not guilty hearing in court. You will need medical evidence, such as a doctor's statement, to support your case.

If you lose and are convicted of speeding you would get the same three points as a fixed penalty, but the fine will be income related and there will be significant costs (£600+) and charges added.

Hi

For this type of scenario how much o average would your "highly paid.." cost, please?

FYI, I was thinking a few k's?

Thnaks

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T.T.D

For the “Alex Furguson defence”, instructing a specialist motoring offenc QC to work on and present a motoring case would probably run someone £500-550 per consultation and on a hearing to represent on the day (even if it’s it’s 10 minute hearing) £3000-5000.

The core elements of the Ferguson case is that he saw the MUFC club Doctor some hours before driving home to which he had given Alex Ferguson Imodium tablets to aid him getting through his duties at the club and hopefully home without incident. 

As 99% of the population have not got direct access to a Doctor to be “prescribed” Imodium hours before an offence took place and is in a position of fame to claim “embarrassment leading to no offer of defence at time of a caution (or impromptu interview by police at roadside), trying to put together a case with 0 evidentiary factors and elements prior and just declaring “IBS/Crohns or severe bout of chronic diarrhoea issues still does not wash unfortunately.

Can you Match or better the core evidentiary elements of this case?

Did you see or speak with a Dr or Local Pharmacist in the hours prior to this speeding ticket? We’re you prescribed anything?

Did you purchase any Imodium or dioralyte from a local shop do you have the receipt? 

Do you have a repeat prescription for Imodium dioralyte or similar stronger medications to treat diarrhoea or severe stomach issues or diagnosed a disability that has diarrhoea as it’s core symptom? 

Did you speak with a Doctor directly afterwards about this?  If yes then certainly speak with a specialist solicitor and plead not guilty. 

If no then it’s sensible in my honest opinion to take the course or points. But more importantly if the ticketing office has issued a S.172 RTA request for drivers details then I would respond naming the driver at your earliest opportunity to avoid 6 penalty points and £300 fine. 

 

Froggitt2

T.T.D said:

Do you have a repeat prescription for Imodium dioralyte or similar stronger medications to treat diarrhoea or severe stomach issues or diagnosed a disability that has diarrhoea as it’s core symptom? 

 

Yes, Loperamide 2%